Added Lighting Project

[STUBBORN]

Need better lighting.
1 Mount 2 LED lights on 1 inch crash bars.

 

[SneakyDingo]

Before you start doing this, how much power is this drawing?

 

[STUBBORN]

There is a LOT of incorrect information in Amazon.

Part 1
Add two 3.75 x 3.00 LED lights clamped upside down to the 1 inch Crash Bars.
Replace the light kit's on off switch with a dual lighted handlebar switch.
First switch for the two side LED lights.
Second switch for the Top LED Light Bar.

Part 2
Add a 9 inch 3 row LED Light Bar to the top 1/2 inch diameter
bar on the front rack.

I do not know how to attach the LED light to the 1/2 inch bar.
Need advice.
I do not know the size and length of the light bar mounting bolts
but I can change them to 3/8 in for the clamps or 1/4 in for the cable clips.

Light Bar Mounting Ideas
Adapt 2 handle bar mounts that go from 7/8 to 2 inch diameters?
or use two 1/2 inch cable clips?

I do not think the cable clips are strong enough.
I do not have any idea how to reduce the clamp size from 7/8 to 1/2 inch.

 

[STUBBORN]

Good Question.
I do not know. The Amazon listings do not specify.
All 3 lights should not draw more than 5 amps total.

I plan on connecting each light thru my DMM using the
AMPs terminal and checking at 11.9 and 13.7 volts.
The lighting kit has a 30 amp relay and several in
line fuses are included. The switches are rated at 16 amps.
The wiring looks to be the metric size below #16 AWG.

I am not mechanically inclined so simple things like
which way to twist the oil change bolt are hard.
Figuring how to mount the lights is a struggle.

 

[SneakyDingo]

All 3 lights should not draw more than 5 amps total.

I tried to reverse search the products and get some information on the lighting, and wasn't able to find the exact product. However when I looked into this, I saw similar numbers, that you'd be drawing something close to 60W, or more.

Honda recommends that if you're drawing close to the stator capabilities, you should be trickle charging the bike in between uses as well to make sure the battery is topped up.

 

[JTB]

I think reducing those mounts 1/2 may look funny(you could wrap the bar in electrical tape or a piece of innertube). Sounds like you aren't very confident about fabricating a mount. So I think your "cable clips" idea may be your best bet. Mount them in opposite directions(screws facing inward on both) and I think they could work. Looks like the mounting hardware on the light has a slight recesss. Maybe use some fender washers between the light and the cable clips to keep the light from rubbing on the bars. Most 1/2 cable clips will have a smaller screw hole than you want so you may have to drill them out to enlarge the hole. Clamp/secure them when you drill them out as they will catch the edge of the bit and want to spin.

 

[STUBBORN]

Hi,
Here are the Light Kit Parts:

Dual lighted on off handlebar mount switches

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B093PZLHRM/?coliid=I3SGSPWIIOPBCM&colid=3QLK8N1MPG47D&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Suzco Dual 4 inch LED light kit SUZCO113689

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07ZHZG2FR/ref=ask_ql_qh_dp_hza

Kit contains two 3.75 x 3 inch LED lamps with adjustable tube mounts, wiring kit with inline fuse, 30 amp relay and lighted panel switch
I asked Suzco for the current draw per light at 11.9, 12.0, and 13.4 volts DC.

Lumitek 9 inch LED Light Bar

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07PFP6VRK/?coliid=I2161TCWSV2UUT&colid=3QLK8N1MPG47D&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Can't find the Lumitek WEB page - Asked Amazon for Part Number ‎Lu-108TRI current draw at 12 volts DC.

TICONN 42 PCS Cable Clamps Set - Rubber Cushioned 304 Stainless Steel Hose Clamps Loop Clamps Pipe Clamps in 6 Sizes (42PCS combo, 1/4'' 5/16'' 3/8'' 1/2'' 5/8'' 3/4'')
https://www.amazon.com/TICONN-42PCS...prefix=cable+clamps,aps,115&sr=8-2-spons&th=1

I can enlarge the mounting hole slightly and tighten down using replacement stainless steel fasteners, washer, bolt, nut and lockwasher.

 

[STUBBORN]

I tried to reverse search the products and get some information on the lighting, and wasn't able to find the exact product. However when I looked into this, I saw similar numbers, that you'd be drawing something close to 60W, or more.

Honda recommends that if you're drawing close to the stator capabilities, you should be trickle charging the bike in between uses as well to make sure the battery is topped up.

The 2021 Honda Trail 125 Service Manual page 1-11 says alternator 0.19KW @5000 rpm. 190 watts charging with hamster running at full speed in the cage really is not much.
example

At lower RPM, I am not sure of what the alternator output is.
Luckily, I have a 12 volt solar panel charging kit set up.

 

[SneakyDingo]

The 2021 Honda Trail 125 Service Manual page 1-11 says alternator 0.19KW @5000 rpm. 190 watts charging with hamster running at full speed in the cage really is not much.
example

At lower RPM, I am not sure of what the alternator output is.
Luckily, I have a 12 volt solar panel charging kit set up.

See this post that indicates 60W excess wattage is a safe bet, and that 70W is slowly draining the battery. That's where I'm getting the 60W number from. Honda's manual just wants you to keep the battery topped off. Ultimately if you wire it up right, unless you're doing long miles at night it won't matter too much, and you always have the kickstarter if you do run it too low. There are other posts on here that say running the stator at max output capacity is not a good idea though.