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FIrst offroad trip (TWAT) Trans Wisconsin Adventure Trail

Konik

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Three weeks ago I set out on a trip from Chicagoland to the Wisconsin State Border by Mississippi river where the TWAT starts. This was my first camping multi day trip on off-roads.

I had about 1900 miles on the odometer and finished at 3424 when I got back to Chicago, ~600 were on the trail while the rest of it was on pure roads. This was 10-12hrs daily in the saddle for 6 days straight, all on stock tires, saddle but I'm a cyclist so used to the riding. My average speed for the whole ride was not impressive due to all the luggage and bike speed but it was still fun as heck. I am planning on repeating this ride when the fall colors hit. This was a pure blast and joy all week.

This was my route. I did not track the first section from Chicago to the start of the trail. The trail is marked with all the waypoints and the blue section is the way back home on roads. I used Gaia GPS app to record. I had issues with power connection on my Garmin, something to work on for next trip.

I had no issues whatsoever with the CT125 other than chain getting a bit dirty/rusty from the trail and riding 50+Mph on roads for the next 3 days which is not the same as a clean chain.
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Day 1:

Started around 4pm going towards Galena IL. I went mostly the scenic farm route so it took me a while to get to Galena. I arrived at around 9pm and with luck got a quick campsite to get me over to the next morning. This was my first night camping with the bike and a new tent so it took me a while to setup at night.

After first night, this is where the bike was still clean :)
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Day 2:

Did not get started until maybe 10am. I reached the WI border shortly after and rode the first section of WI farm roads towards the Wisconsin River. This is where the first off road and forest sections begin. There is not a lot of them but it got my feet wet on something other than pavement. I started off very slowly but after a while I think I kept a good pace with this bike.

The first uphill tricky section was actually in a forested area on the Iowa side, this is also where I met the only other rider that was doing the TWAT along the whole route. He was on a Africa Twin so slightly larger than what I had :). Since this was his 2nd or 3rd route ride he told me about this next lookout over the Mississippi river.

Had quite few deer jump in front or just run along until jumping over fences or into the forest.
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Lansing IA overlook.
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Bridge below that crosses back into WI side.
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After finally getting to a campsite past 9pm again, setup a the tent in no time and fell asleep.

Day 3:

Set off @8AM this time much earlier than usual. After riding for a couple of hours through the scenic farm roads and towns in the Wisconsin driftless area, I finally reached the Wildcat Mountain Park.
Very nice area with some winding road sections that were fantastic to ride.
After a few more hours of Amish country ( I saw barn building on one of the gravel roads) I reached the Black river forest area, this is where the forest riding really starts. Just miles and miles of woods.
This is where there are a couple of deep sand sections, I accidently turned the wrong way and had to go through a couple of miles of sand then reroute back to the trail. Very different from all other riding on this bike, got me tired more than anything and worried more that I lost speed/time which extended my riding time for the day.

Nice little stop in the middle of the woods a bit north of Hatfield WI
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Rode a couple more hours until the forest off-roads ended and straight farm roads started until Thorpe WI. The plan was to reach the forest section and camp but I was nowhere close so I had to ride couple more miles and get a last minute motel. This worked out well since I got to recharge my electronics and transfer video footage etc but did not get much sleep.

Day 4:

Started off at 7AM in the small town and headed north toward the Perkins town section when the fun forest roads and trails start. This is the day where its basically all forest, the best day of them all.

Miles and miles of these and not a thing in sight. Only thing on my mind was no flats, no falls and no mechanicals. CT125 performed without a flaw.
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Later on during the northern section of the route there was a brief rain that sorta made for interesting ride for a couple hours as I got a bit cold with the wind but it cleared up and started being nice again around 3pm.

Stopping in the middle of a forest on a paved bridge to dry off.
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I did not stop by the famous Diner before the end of the trail as it closes at 2pm and I was nowhere close to it. It took me a couple of hours to go through the last section of the trail which was the best part.

I hit a part of a double wide trail that I was just flying by, well 30-40mph for a good section. Pure bliss. I did finally come up to some sand sections which slowed me down and I did not reach Cornucopia on Lake Superior up until about 7pm.
The Africa Twin rider was already up here setup with a camp site and we ate dinner at a nice restaurant outside before going back to the campsite on the lake. Had time to stop at a gas station and get some local beers to help fall asleep.

What was cool is that the rider I met on the trail could not believe I completed the whole trail on this bike. He was really surprised and I'm sure will be a nice story to repeat.

Finally before the end of the nigh, I got to watch a clear sky with all the stars next to the lake, something you don't get to see in a big city so it makes you appreciate it more.

Day 5:

Got up around 8am, my riding Africa twin buddy kept on riding towards Copper Harbor and as much as I wanted to go into the UP more, I knew I was not able to keep up on the roads and would run out of available time so I decided to go towards Green Bay instead.

Before heading out that way, I stopped by the official end point of the trail on the lake. I ate and got ice cream at a touristy bay town after leaving the lake which took me a while to get on the actual road.

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Afterwards, I continued towards Green Bay but did not arrive to the city. I found another hotel in a town about 30 miles away from Green Bay, it was after 9pm. I recharged again and got ready for the last leg of the trip.

Day 6:

This was all road. I rode from Green Bay area to the northernmost point on the Door Peninsula and almost got on a Ferry to the Washington Island. I have never been on this peninsula before so this was more of an exploratory detour which will probably be on my future trips.
I headed down south along the same route as there is not a lot of slow speed friendly roads. Once I was south of Sturgeon Bay, I rode along lake Michigan and found a nice state campsite by the lake a bit North of Two Rivers WI. Highly recommended.

So lucky that I rolled into the campsite without any reservation and the it was basically full. I rode couple of miles south, got online and reserved the last open site, got into the park right as it was closing, bought 3 stacks of campfire wood.

This is the bike loaded up with the last 2 stacks of firewood that I bought at closing :).
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Day 7:

This was last day of riding. I basically took the scenic route Garmin recommended along the lake all the way Home. I did avoid some of it as it kept on wanting to go through the congested area in the cities that I wanted to avoid.

Did not get home until 8pm which made it for a 6th day of 10+ hrs of riding a day. Loved every day.

Cheers!
 

Kritou

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Sounds a great excursion

I appreciate you have posted your map of the ride but sometimes it is neat to have access to a .gpx track so others can follow along in say, Google Earth and get a bit more context about the area you are riding

Are you finding a need to carry extra fuel, and if so how much is sensible?

Yes, like you I dislike and worry about flats so have converted to tubeless for the ability to plug a tyre rather than get the tube out …
 

G19Tony

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Sounds a great excursion

I appreciate you have posted your map of the ride but sometimes it is neat to have access to a .gpx track so others can follow along in say, Google Earth and get a bit more context about the area you are riding

Are you finding a need to carry extra fuel, and if so how much is sensible?

Yes, like you I dislike and worry about flats so have converted to tubeless for the ability to plug a tyre rather than get the tube out …

How did you convert to tubeless, if I might ask?
 

Kritou

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Used the “ghetto” method of slicing open an inner tube and reinstalling a/the tyre on top of the now splayed out tube. Then trim off the excess protruding tube each side
 

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MisterB

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Konik, thanks for sharing your wonderful ride! You're further North than me so I suspect you're having cooler overnight temps as we head towards Autumn. Great shot of the deer!
Do you get decent video from the front camera on the rack? Wondering because I'm thinking about mounting some "dash cam" type cameras on mine to record our little outings. Wife has a helmet cam but I was thinking of a more "built-in" solution.

Kritou, On bigger bikes there's a thing called "Dark Side" where you use a car tire on the rear. Riders find the closest fit and mount up a car tire and get extreme mileage and there are some handling differences but not nearly as extreme as some folks would have you believe. I ran Dark Side on my ST1300 and it was "meh". Didn't track great on our crowned roads around here but the thing didn't wear. I did "Double Dark" by running a rear MC as front tire on it also. All in all it was a fun experiment, I didn't crash and burn, put plenty of miles on it before selling and the guy I sold it to flew from the west coast to buy it and ride back. We stayed in touch and he ran them down pretty good eventually, doing HARD riding, and never crashed and burned. It's a VERY divisive subject on MC forums, but it is what it is. Now that I have a tire changer I'm using MC tires on the Gold Wing and unless there's a HUGE change in my life will continue to run MC tires until I sell it, probably end of this season unless I talk myself out of it.
ANYWAY, this hack is hilarious and simple and seems like the kind of thing that would get some folks up in arms. Does it have a funny name like the car tire hack? Brilliant, simple, I'm sure there's some danger to it that will drive technical pedants crazy, but necessity is the mother of invention! LOL you could put glue on the mating surfaces.
 

SneakyDingo

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LOL you could put glue on the mating surfaces.
Glue on tubulars are a thing in the bicycling world. However it's more like having a tire that is sewn over the inner tube, then gluing that to the rim.

DaBinChi just did a video a week ago about dark siding. Not a practice I choose willingly for various reasons but one I would use without too much thought if it came to it, and maybe even consider it as a better option for extremely niche situations. Would be weird to do on a CT125 where the bike's easy enough to work on though.
 

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Looks like a nice adventure! Great photos with the firewood haul and deer. I especially like the duffel bag storage positioned in front of the rear top case. Any mods or adjustments planned based on your experiences from the trip? Don't sweat the chain, just tend to it and remember it's a consumable.

Re: dark siding
Other than straight line high mileage highway riding it's also common on sidecar hacks since their weird geometry results in forces that can quickly chew through motorcycle tires. A rear car tire on a sidecar rig also helps prevent unintentionally flying the chair (riding with the sidecar wheel up in the air) which can happen with sharp turns toward the sidecar side.

Rear tire of a Harley with a sidecar, to explain the wear the sidecar is mounted on the right side of the bike. When you fly the chair the contact patch is the left side of the tire, need to do a lot more of that to even out the wear!
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Konik

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@Kritou I used the extra tank once. I was in the middle of forested area and my last light started blinking, I was no where close to a gas station so i just pulled over and filled up. It's a good option to have, even to help out someone just in case.

@MisterB Thanks, Video is great from the rack using Go Pro camera and mount. If camera has stabilization, its nice and smooth like on itchy boots videos.

@dmonkey The bag was a Givi 30L which is also what @SomeGuyRides used on the TAT and has on his list. Most of my items I took are from that list, including the tent. I made sure to put in clothes in the bag and it was nice and cushy on my back. The Straps that come with it fit perfectly between the start of the rack, around the case to the bottom of the rack. They even held the fire wood nicely.

Other than checking my battery connection which I swear it worked fine before putting the middle rack on, I would probably pack less for the next trip. Since it was my first one I over packed.

The main issue that sorta sticks out is once I got on a faster roads to get back home I could not keep with in Speed. On the hills I always had to pull to the side so that I don't get ran over by cars but more so by big trucks. Even on the straight roads with 50+ Mph speeds I had issues reaching that speed with all the weight I had, I spent a good amount of time on the side lane letting everyone through that wanted to pass.

I did get passed by other bikers that often gave me the thumbs up but I could not keep up even if they were going 55. The one big mod that is keeping me interested now is a 181 kit to gain some uphill and top speed. Going to wait on reports from others to see how well they work and might dive into it next year. Other than that the bike was great.

Cheers.
 

Gene56

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Looks like a nice adventure, thanks for the photos. Like the idea for the tubless tires!
 
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