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Gear Change Pedal Recall on some units (slowly rolling out to different countries?)

dmonkey

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Honda have issued a recall on some gear change pedals for the CT125 where the weld is a weak point, so far it's for 2021 chassis numbers JA55-1000004 - JA55-1020651. I think all US models are stamped JA55E so they're not in that range.


Some gear change pedals have insufficient weld strength with the change pedal boss due to the improper shape of the change pedal arm. Therefore, repeated shifting operations may cause cracks in the welded part, and in the worst case, the welded part may be damaged during driving and the change pedal arm may fall off, obstructing other traffic.


Here's a photo from one of the affected ones I found on Instagram where it broke https://www.instagram.com/p/CVB05oXB3nN/
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Here's what mine looks like on a US model:
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It certainly looks dependent on that small weld area being solid. Just posting this as a heads up in case we later find out it impacts models outside Japan. This illustration Honda posted makes it look like the replacement is different than the gear change pedal I've got, where more of the pivot shaft hole is covered, but it's just an illustration so not sure how much different the actual replacement pedal looks.

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Update: Looks like the recall is active in NZ now as well: https://www.recalls.govt.nz/recalls/honda-ct125/
Update: Recall now active in the USA as well: https://www.nhtsa.gov/vehicle/2021/HONDA/CT125#recalls
 
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I personally hated the gear change lever so I cut off the "heel" part and moved the front up one spline on the shaft. MUCH BETTER!
The heel shifter location hasn't bothered me much, but I NEVER use it. I may do the same just to remove the possibility of an accidental shift.
 

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I too might do the hacksaw mod but I have the same type heel toe shifter on my Ural so I am use to it.
So no one here has had the shifter break? That would be bad, large pair of vice grips to the rescue?
I have been guilty of wearing river sandals when riding my bikes.
 

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I too might do the hacksaw mod but I have the same type heel toe shifter on my Ural so I am use to it.
So no one here has had the shifter break? That would be bad, large pair of vice grips to the rescue?
I have been guilty of wearing river sandals when riding my bikes.
If you decide to take the shifter off to cut it, you'll need to loosen the foot pegs to get the shifter off. Not a big deal just another step in the process. Moving the shifter up one spline definitely makes it easier to shift in my book.
 

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If you decide to take the shifter off to cut it, you'll need to loosen the foot pegs to get the shifter off. Not a big deal just another step in the process. Moving the shifter up one spline definitely makes it easier to shift in my book.
It was fiddly, but I managed to get mine off without touching any of the foot peg bolts.
 

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Looks like I have one of the bad shifters on my mine #2111 in the US. I have not received anything as of yet, but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time. The contact area is pretty small and I can see how it could snap off on someone who slams thru the gears. Also I noticed the shift shaft brace on the bike in the pictures above and wonder if that played any part. Was thinking of installing one myself to see if it really takes some of the slop out.
 

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The bike with the photo of the broken shift shaft doesn't have the shift shaft brace, sorry for the confusion there that was just a photo I found of a Japanese bike with the issue on Instagram. Easy to mix them up since it's the same bike. Those other photos are of my US bike with the shift shaft support and a weak looking gear shifter but no recall yet. Just checked again on https://powersports.honda.com/recalls
There's a thread on the shift shaft support here with a lot of opinions: https://hondatrail125.com/index.php?threads/shift-support-installed.239/
My personal take on it with the G-Craft support pictured is that I didn't notice much difference, but I also didn't have noticeable shifter slop to begin with.
 

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Looks like I have one of the bad shifters on my mine #2111 in the US. I have not received anything as of yet, but I’m sure it’s only a matter of time. The contact area is pretty small and I can see how it could snap off on someone who slams thru the gears. Also I noticed the shift shaft brace on the bike in the pictures above and wonder if that played any part. Was thinking of installing one myself to see if it really takes some of the slop out.
The US recall was issued on Friday, 10/15. There are no details about it on any sites yet. NZ has a new recall for the same thing.

As I mentioned on the other thread, I was supposed to pick one up on Friday and my dealer told me they can’t sell it now. They have a call with Honda on Friday and suspect it could take a couple of months to get the replacement parts, though at this point it is all speculation. I wouldn‘t want to be waiting on parts being shipped by boat right now.

Mine is 2215.
 

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yeah there's barely any penetration on the weld on the arm side. somebody @ the factory had the offset on the weld robot a hair off methinks.
 

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just take the stock one off and have it welded. seriously, its longer to take it off than actually fix the issue. then cut the heel off of it if you want.
 

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I did the chop job on the shifter plus moved it up a notch as recommend above. I was having a problem with getting my pants cuff stuck on the heel part of the shifter.

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