Heavy duty tubes for the CT

[Clancy oto]

Hey guys,

Anyone have some good suggestions for heavy duty tubes for the CT?

Just want to to minimise the chance of flats when going remote. The rear can be pretty fiddly to put back on in the baking sun on your own. Just did it. Sweaty as all hell. Love to not do again in a hurry.

Cheers in advance.


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[Kritou]

You could go tubeless so that a flat can plugged in situ

 

[AZ7000']

Would this work?

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[sieg]

I had briefly used HD tubes in my dirt bike. Bulker to carry as a spare, harder to install and mount, they don't like to take patches and, in the end, I don't think an extra 1mm of rubber prevented any punctures. YRMD.

 

[AZ7000']

they don't like to take patches

I have never experienced this…. Mousses in the dirt bikes, tubes in all else. I will never use dirt bike tubeless again, too many variables. All the mountain bikes are tubeless but without the dirt bike apparatus.

 

[bryanchurch06]

You could go tubeless so that a flat can plugged in situ

Just out of curiosity, if you go with the tubeless option what tires would you use? All the tires I've found for the bike say to use a tube. I thought tubeless tires had a stiffer sidewall than tubed tires.

 

[Kritou]

Just out of curiosity, if you go with the tubeless option what tires would you use? All the tires I've found for the bike say to use a tube. I thought tubeless tires had a stiffer sidewall than tubed tires.

Converted my CT125 oem tyres eight months ago for the cost of two slightly smaller tubes and a couple of hours - works a treat on any tyre

 

[bryanchurch06]

Converted my CT125 oem tyres eight months ago for the cost of two slightly smaller tubes and a couple of hours - works a treat on any tyre

Ok I watched the video and I understand the process, however I am still concerned about the difference in a tubeless tire sidewall, aren't they a stiffer construction or am I confused about the tire construction? Thanks for the information btw

 

[Kritou]

Because I had read that tubed tyres were more porous I fitted a pair of Continental tubeless tyres. I cannot however detect any difference between them and the oem ones in terms of sidewall stiffness. Perhaps there is a presumption that tubes “support” the less stiff tubed tyres - I do not subscribe to this idea and believe the only purpose of a tube is to contain air (and in this “ghetto” conversion they continue to do just that - well, partially!)

YouTuber Jim Sprandell is running this conversion with tubed Shinko carcasses

I find it interesting to read that Fatbike and MTB riders go tubeless to avoid snakebites to tubes when riding at low low pressures over hard and unfriendly terrain …

 

[Clancy oto]

I had briefly used HD tubes in my dirt bike. Bulker to carry as a spare, harder to install and mount, they don't like to take patches and, in the end, I don't think an extra 1mm of rubber prevented any punctures. YRMD.

Good points.

And thanks for the contributions all

Cheers


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[SneakyDingo]

I find it interesting to read that Fatbike and MTB riders go tubeless to avoid snakebites to tubes when riding at low low pressures over hard and unfriendly terrain …

They avoid snakebites but risk rim damage. I need to rebuild my rear wheel because of that on my 650b and now I have a ding on the rim after getting a puncture that wouldn't seal. Fatbike riders also have a variety of methods, but because they're using such low pressure tires they can get away with it, e.g. using cloth tape (duct tape) + sealant is a viable alternative to an actual non-permeable rim strip on rims without cutouts. They're also running like 4-7 psi.

It's trading one set of problems for a different set of problems. Personally I find the biggest advantage, by far, is that you don't have to deal with flats from glass and other small debris, because the casing of a bicycle tire is incredibly thin, something CT125 tires generally do not share in common with bicycles.

 

[Samg7]

Because I had read that tubed tyres were more porous I fitted a pair of Continental tubeless tyres. I cannot however detect any difference between them and the oem ones in terms of sidewall stiffness. Perhaps there is a presumption that tubes “support” the less stiff tubed tyres - I do not subscribe to this idea and believe the only purpose of a tube is to contain air (and in this “ghetto” conversion they continue to do just that - well, partially!)

YouTuber Jim Sprandell is running this conversion with tubed Shinko carcasses

I find it interesting to read that Fatbike and MTB riders go tubeless to avoid snakebites to tubes when riding at low low pressures over hard and unfriendly terrain …

Which conti tires are you running?

 

[bryanchurch06]

They avoid snakebites but risk rim damage. I need to rebuild my rear wheel because of that on my 650b and now I have a ding on the rim after getting a puncture that wouldn't seal. Fatbike riders also have a variety of methods, but because they're using such low pressure tires they can get away with it, e.g. using cloth tape (duct tape) + sealant is a viable alternative to an actual non-permeable rim strip on rims without cutouts. They're also running like 4-7 psi.

It's trading one set of problems for a different set of problems. Personally I find the biggest advantage, by far, is that you don't have to deal with flats from glass and other small debris, because the casing of a bicycle tire is incredibly thin, something CT125 tires generally do not share in common with bicycles.

Sneaky I got to tell you I always enjoy your posts, I always learn something from your varied experience and insight however I have to admit sometimes it is hard to tell if you are for it, against it or in the middle, either way works for me though so keep on posting my friend.

 

[SneakyDingo]

I'm not really for or against it, but fatbiking is a really, really weird beast and I wouldn't really generalize from that particular part of bicycling. By weird, I mean "Surly Bicycles sent people to Taiwan to reconfigure the tire machines that no one else wanted to change and hadn't been changed in years so they could produce 4.75 inch tires" weird.

Everything has tradeoffs. Sometimes those are a lot more painful or come with caveats, like having a slim donut spare tire for your car - you save space, but those are not designed for more than 45 mph or 400 mi of driving. Not an issue if you're a city slicker who passes 4 tire shops on the way to work. Big issue if you're in Meekatharra trying to get to the nearest service center with 600+ mi of nothing nearby.