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Kev250R

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Another option is to invest in becoming your own cobbler (or mechanic). Total cost of ownership of a Honda Trail once you get up there in the miles will be quite a bit if you were to bring it to the dealership for everything little thing and pay whatever $75+/hr rate they charge.
This is the route I chose when I bought my first vehicle. I also took some classes at a local college in Auto Repair which helped. Good troubleshooting is key, Using good-quality parts is a must and buying good tools is a given. Last winter I put a lift in my garage so I could easier work-on a couple of cars which sit too low for me to get under. No one who knows me was surprised LOL!

I own ten vehicles which go off-road. Some of them very far off-road (I spend a lot of my free time in the back-country of the Mojave, Northern Arizona and Utah) so I learned early-on that it would benefit me to know how to fix my stuff since sometimes things don't break-down in convenient places.

I do have a local shop I use for things which are more involved then I want to get into or will take more time then I want to spend. I like supporting local businesses and with limited free time sometimes it makes more sense to pay someone to fix something for me during the week so that I can go out and play that weekend.
 

SLO

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I don't care about the Walton's personally. what it is now, is cheap shit for cheap people. That's fine, i get it. But i choose not to patronize them for what I have seen them do to small communities 1st hand. that's my thing, I don't expect to convince anybody, but they never see my money.

As far as shops, usually it boils down to management, hiring barely if at all skilled techs. Lack of parts inventories for even basic service items for current models, IMHO, is inexcusable. and that's where a lot of the waiting come from, even from 3-4 yrs ago. I have wrenched for money, on a professional level, for bike shops and car dealerships and private shops, most many years ago. Last shop i was at between 2 gigs for a few months (3), was an independent shop, mostly harley stuff but i did most of the japanese bikes, and i enjoyed it. I then did Saturdays only there for another 6 mos. The owner cared, and wanted quality work. that made all the difference. I also did some of the harley stuff as well.

The local dealership, when it went under new management/ownership approached me to run the service department. I asked the owner what his tech rate of pay was, and of course what my salary would be. He was surprised I asked about the tech pay, and when he answered me, I declined the jobs primarily because, and i quote 'you'll never get a tech worth a shit to work for that amount of money'. and, i was right. their service department is awful. I also wasn't going to work for what he was offering, but that was besides the point. Maybe when i retire. But most dealerships see service as a 'necessary evil'. its weird. and it certainly didn't used to be this way.

Local shops though, can be hit or miss, but we have a very good one here, and I will use him to mount tires and occasionally balance wheels, because I hate doing it. He's slam full but gets work done quicker than the dealership and does great quality work. I've actually done some side jobs for him on vintage bikes, mostly to help him out. But doing it for a paycheck isn't any fun, to me. I like my easy engineering job and do all this stuff as a hobby. Best advice is to find a local shop that actually gives a shit, usually a conversation with the shop foreman or owner tells you what you need to know.
 

SLO

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I don't care about the Walton's personally. what it is now, is cheap shit for cheap people. That's fine, i get it. But i choose not to patronize them for what I have seen them do to small communities 1st hand. that's my thing, I don't expect to convince anybody, but they never see my money.

As far as shops, usually it boils down to management, hiring barely if at all skilled techs. Lack of parts inventories for even basic service items for current models, IMHO, is inexcusable. and that's where a lot of the waiting come from, even from 3-4 yrs ago. I have wrenched for money, on a professional level, for bike shops and car dealerships and private shops, most many years ago. Last shop i was at between 2 gigs for a few months (3), was an independent shop, mostly harley stuff but i did most of the japanese bikes, and i enjoyed it. I then did Saturdays only there for another 6 mos. The owner cared, and wanted quality work. that made all the difference. I also did some of the harley stuff as well.

The local dealership, when it went under new management/ownership approached me to run the service department. I asked the owner what his tech rate of pay was, and of course what my salary would be. He was surprised I asked about the tech pay, and when he answered me, I declined the jobs primarily because, and i quote 'you'll never get a tech worth a shit to work for that amount of money'. and, i was right. their service department is awful. I also wasn't going to work for what he was offering, but that was besides the point. Maybe when i retire. But most dealerships see service as a 'necessary evil'. its weird. and it certainly didn't used to be this way.

Local shops though, can be hit or miss, but we have a very good one here, and I will use him to mount tires and occasionally balance wheels, because I hate doing it. He's slam full but gets work done quicker than the dealership and does great quality work. I've actually done some side jobs for him on vintage bikes, mostly to help him out. But doing it for a paycheck isn't any fun, to me. I like my easy engineering job and do all this stuff as a hobby. Best advice is to find a local shop that actually gives a shit, usually a conversation with the shop foreman or owner tells you what you need to know.
You can't blame them for what happened to the five and dime from Bentonville. Beware of people looking for a place to put their money.when you are aware of how they obtained it. As far as 3-4 year wait before buying a new model,that goes for any vehicle and is good practice to follow. Sell something,not service it is a result of the dealership owners not riding,or ever servicing any bike that they have ridden or have never been an avid rider. Nor are they actually present in the shop. Ever.
 

Msfitoy

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Another option is to invest in becoming your own cobbler (or mechanic). Total cost of ownership of a Honda Trail once you get up there in the miles will be quite a bit if you were to bring it to the dealership for everything little thing and pay whatever $75+/hr rate they charge.
I do this for all of my personal toys...trucks included...another sign of getting old lol...
 
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