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I get it but I don't, this was the bike before I rode home from work today... I use gloves???

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Comfort! Bar mitts block wind well enough that you can be more comfortable for longer with regular gloves that have good dexterity. I just did blocking for the Toys for Tots run in Chicago on a motorcycle that lacks winter comforts, wore my obnoxiously thick Aerostich wool insulated leather gauntlet gloves that were my go-to before I discovered the magic of bar mitts and heated grips. Good enough for a few hours, but not the same level of warmth as Hippo Hands and heated grips on my CT125.

A nice benefit to bar mitts is they cover the controls so they don't freeze over. I put a flap of duct tape over the ignition in the winter for the same purpose, keeps the dust cover shutter in the lock cylinder from icing shut while parked.


You've built yourself an absolute unit of a CT125 Technical or NSTV (Non-Standard Tactical Vehicle) right there. (y)
 

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Comfort! Bar mitts block wind well enough that you can be more comfortable for longer with regular gloves that have good dexterity. I just did blocking for the Toys for Tots run in Chicago on a motorcycle that lacks winter comforts, wore my obnoxiously thick Aerostich wool insulated leather gauntlet gloves that were my go-to before I discovered the magic of bar mitts and heated grips. Good enough for a few hours, but not the same level of warmth as Hippo Hands and heated grips on my CT125.

A nice benefit to bar mitts is they cover the controls so they don't freeze over. I put a flap of duct tape over the ignition in the winter for the same purpose, keeps the dust cover shutter in the lock cylinder from icing shut while parked.



You've built yourself an absolute unit of a CT125 Technical or NSTV (Non-Standard Tactical Vehicle) right there. (y)

Thanks! The flap of duct tape is a great idea!
 

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This is one of those different strokes for different folks things, but comfort helps lower fatigue, and lower fatigue over time adds up to being safer, so I'm all for it.

My Dad used to wear a set of thick, wool lined 80's welder's gloves for winter riding that he took really good care of. I get a wave of nostalgia now every time I see them now.
 

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"You've built yourself an absolute unit of a CT125 Technical or NSTV (Non-Standard Tactical Vehicle) right there"
funny you mention that....

I actually worked for Defense Venture Group on the engineering team for the gen3 NSTT (non standard tactical truck) back in 2010-13 that Navistar eventually bought the design for.. I'd liken it more to an up-armored Suburban vs an NSTV ;)
 

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"You've built yourself an absolute unit of a CT125 Technical or NSTV (Non-Standard Tactical Vehicle) right there"
funny you mention that....

I actually worked for Defense Venture Group on the engineering team for the gen3 NSTT (non standard tactical truck) back in 2010-13 that Navistar eventually bought the design for.. I'd liken it more to an up-armored Suburban vs an NSTV ;)

Needs a minigun mount. 😁
 

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Most interesting place i ever worked. the talent was off the charts.
I did work on the turret design a bit for the attack model, and the deployable ramp system for the 2 ktms they would haul for special recon.

fully loaded they were 9000 lbs each, roughly. and would sustain 80+ mph across the desert fully loaded with room for 5, but usually 4.

the comments are hilarious, and pretty much all dead wrong. I can say this now.. the vehicle was skinned with fiberglass but the whole thing was made of ballistic armor underneath. it was absolutely intended to survive an IED. and they would. https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/...duces-the-nstt-battle-ready-pickup-truck.html
 

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fully loaded they were 9000 lbs each, roughly. and would sustain 80+ mph across the desert fully loaded with room for 5, but usually 4
Hmmmm, I raced trophy trucks in Baja for 15 years. I wonder why no one raced these?? Seems like they would win every race 🤔….
 

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The CT was great today. The Hippo Hands worked very well. They're an older version, so they did let in a little air, but I wore my summer gloves, and was not uncomfortable. It's not crazy cold here in Vegas, 46 this morning when I left, but it gets cold enough.
The Corbin seat is awesome! I'll be interested to get out on it for a few hours and see how it does. Everything worked fine, and nothing fell off.

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Hmmmm, I raced trophy trucks in Baja for 15 years. I wonder why no one raced these?? Seems like they would win every race 🤔….
Because you could only do it for about 2 hours fully loaded wide ass open. . Ever heard of porter racing out of Huntington Beach? Danny was our lead prototyping fabricator. also.. they weren't available to the public for obvious reasons. Below are 2 of the vehicles Danny built before he came to work with me. He also did the welding and fab on my lightweight frame. This my frame in Dannys home garage when I went to go pick it up . So, could we have built desert racing vehicles there? sure. Just wasn't what we did there.... ;)
 

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Most interesting place i ever worked. the talent was off the charts.
I did work on the turret design a bit for the attack model, and the deployable ramp system for the 2 ktms they would haul for special recon.

fully loaded they were 9000 lbs each, roughly. and would sustain 80+ mph across the desert fully loaded with room for 5, but usually 4.

the comments are hilarious, and pretty much all dead wrong. I can say this now.. the vehicle was skinned with fiberglass but the whole thing was made of ballistic armor underneath. it was absolutely intended to survive an IED. and they would. https://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/...duces-the-nstt-battle-ready-pickup-truck.html
Amazing - and excellent. A gen3 NSTT would be be just the ticket for surviving holiday traffic around here!
 

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After my failed attempt at tubeless tires using Ganesha wheels from Japan. I was left with two OEM hubs that they told me to keep, after destroying the rims. I went to my supplier and got all the parts to build up another set of wheels. I put the Duro's on the new hoops. I'll be installing them on the bike soon. The Shinkos will be the spares for the Scooter Cannonball.

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@G19Tony what happened with the Ganesha wheels?
I took them to my guy to be balanced. They were so far out of rig as to be dangerous. He said he could not fix it. Also, there were welds that weren't completed. I took video and still photos and sent them to Ganesha. They apologized, promptly refunded my money, and asked me to destroy the wheels and told me not to bother to send the hubs back.
 

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After my failed attempt at tubeless tires using Ganesha wheels from Japan. I was left with two OEM hubs that they told me to keep, after destroying the rims. I went to my supplier and got all the parts to build up another set of wheels. I put the Duro's on the new hoops. I'll be installing them on the bike soon. The Shinkos will be the spares for the Scooter Cannonball.

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Those wheels are crying out for the quick and dirty diy split tube tubeless conversion …
 

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I took them to my guy to be balanced. They were so far out of rig as to be dangerous. He said he could not fix it. Also, there were welds that weren't completed. I took video and still photos and sent them to Ganesha. They apologized, promptly refunded my money, and asked me to destroy the wheels and told me not to bother to send the hubs back.
Care to post? I was giving some serious consideration to buying a set. But if they are no bueno...
 

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Care to post? I was giving some serious consideration to buying a set. But if they are no bueno...

I don't have the photos or video anymore. My experience wasn't good. Yours might be different. Sourcing tires will be difficult, unless you can get them to ship from overseas. Ganesha would not. The available tires are not DOT certified. If I could find a set of wheels and tires, I'd be all over it.
 

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Between your experience and the reviews I've been seeing from folks in Japan, I'd personally steer clear of them.
Some reviews are that they're surprised at how heavy they are, they are received with the wheels out-of-true requiring spoke tightening, the spokes come loose again over short distance, and the box they come in said "Made in China" though they are designed in Japan, assembled in Thailand, and use OEM hubs.

One such review: https://www.facebook.com/groups/609951639748501/posts/1472376930172630/
 

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$210 for a rear OEM from rocky mountain, $215 for a front. Not great but not bad either...
 

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Last night I pulled the large Zeta windshield off so I could reconfigure my Zumo XT mount so I could have the device in the portrait position. Then, I got the bright idea to use the small Zeta windshield as my Scooter Cannonball windshield. I'll probably have stickers and such all over it. I'll mount it on the wall when it's over. I painted the backside of the windshield flat black. I've done it before, and it looks pretty good.

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