Tires Megathread

[Shoot870p]

I like that new eland farm bike.

 

[Clancy oto]

Here’s another option I don’t think I’ve seen posted here.

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[SneakyDingo]

Here’s another option I don’t think I’ve seen posted here.

I hesitantly added this, but I should note that Cheng Shin is a special case when discussed with tyre options in this thread. CST is kind of a weird special case in that they are very much a "not American market" tyre.

Being specific, these are the tires they make that fit the bike on paper (80/90, 90/90, 2.5-3.0" on a 17" rim) that they list on their site:

• Dirt: C755 (2.75" & 3.0")
• Dual Sport: C7201 (2.5" & 2.75"), C7208, C7226 (2.5" & 2.75"), C186 (3.0" only)
• Scooter (Street): C6577
• Street: C114 (3.0" only), C116, C117, C180 (3.0" only), C188, C265, C919, C6110, C6511, C6532, C6556, C6571, C6868, CM618, CS186 (3.0" only)

And these are the tyres that are available on the American market from their website, using their site, places like rocky mountain, Google, Amazon and non-eBay sources:

(that's not a typo, and eBay is excluded because you can get almost anything on eBay)

 

[Tex68w]

I did the poor mans fender lift mod/re-drill and added the Shinko 244 3.0 Goldenboys front and rear. I haven't gotten a chance to ride it yet but I love the way it looks. I'll be sure to get some pics up here shortly.

 

[ShieldArc]

If you put on a 3" rear tire how many teeth do you have to add to the rear sprocket to keep the same ratio as with the stock tire?

 

[Tex68w]

Poor mans fender lift aka re-drill and Shinko 244 3.0 GoldenBoys front and rear. Still waiting for parts to get back from the powder coater.

 

[mcmd]

Post Status: Still being maintained.

Hi all,
We have had quite a few threads on which tires, where to get them, etc. In an effort to get that information together, I'd like to start a single (preferably pinned) thread with a single post that has some of the most common tire options and where to get them. This will hopefully be a one-stop-shop for anyone looking for new tires. I will keep updating this first post with information as people add suggestions.

Please also include:
where you buy your tires if you got them at a good price or with exceptional service
links to the manufacturer's website for tires (I'm avoiding linking to Revzilla, etc.)

Tires
Tire options are generally targeted towards the US market unless specified otherwise. When choosing your tire select one that matches your terrain, speed and desired load rating. Please see the disclaimer at the bottom of this post before placing your order.

Model	Size	Type	Other Names/Notes	Load Designation (max)
Bridgestone Battlax BT-390	2.50-17	Street	Thai market / Webike	38L
Deestone D982	2.50-17	Motocross	Higher availability in UK, Japanese markets	38L
IRC SR244	2.50-17	Dual Sport	aka Shinko 244	38L
Deestone D982	2.75-17	Motocross	Higher availability in UK, Japanese markets	41P
Duro HF307	2.75-17	Dual Sport		41P
IRC FB3	2.75-17	Dual Sport		41P
IRC NR53	2.75-17	Street		41P
IRC TR-1	2.75-17	Trials		41P
Kenda K262	2.75-17	Trials		41P
IRC GP-5 (OE)	80/90-17	Mild Dual Sport	OEM tires	44P (front), 50P (rear)
CS C186	3.0-17	Trials	Cheng Shin C186	45N
IRC GP-1	3.0-17	Dual Sport		45P
Kenda K262	3.0-17	Trials		45P
Kenda K262	2.75-17	Trials		45P
Kenda K760 Trakmaster	70/100-17	Dual Sport	DOT approved 90/10 trail/street use tire	46M
IRC SR241	2.75-17	Trials	aka Shinko 241	47J
Duro HF319	2.75-17	Street	Vintage motorcycle tire style	47P
Vee Rubber VRM-022	2.75-17	Dual Sport		47R
Vee Rubber VRM-022	3.0-17	Dual Sport		48R
CST C7208	2.75-17	Dual Sport	aka MAXXIS CST C7208	47P
IRC SR244	3.0-17	Dual Sport	aka Shinko 244	50P
Michelin City Extra Scooter Tires	80/90-17	Street		50S
Michelin City Pro Tires	80/90-17	Street		50S
Michelin Pilot Street 2	80/90-17	Street		50S

Rating lookup chart

Rating	KG	Lb	Speed (km/h)	Speed (mph)
38L	132	291	120	75
41P	145	320	150	93
44P	160	353	150	93
45N	165	364	140	87
45P	165	364	150	93
46M	170	375	130	81
47J	175	386	100	62
47P	175	386	150	93
47R	175	386	170	106
48R	180	397	170	106
50P	190	419	150	93
50S	190	419	180	112

Where do users buy them?

• Rocky Mountain ATV MC (+2)
• Revzilla
• Denniskirk
• Midwest Traction

FAQ
Dude I just want some tires, what makes people happy?

• Shinko 241's in 2.75-17
• OR Shinko 244's in 2.5-17 front, 3.0-17 rear.

What combinations are known to work without modifying the bike?

• Max 2.75" on the front (80/19-17) with no rub, 3.0" with a tiny bit of rub at speed.
• Max 3.0" on the rear.

What happens if I go larger than this?

• Front: Will work, but will rub rocks on the inside of the fender rather than bouncing them around, and at higher speeds (45+ mph) the screws holding the mudflap will rub & make a sound) - +3 users/reviewers confirm.
• Rear: DaBinChe points out the inside of the rear fender area can rub with Shinko 244 3.0's, however the rub is largely cosmetic; larger or taller tires will increase this rubbing. +3 users confirm.
• For the front you can get a fender lift kit or redrill the holes to get slightly more clearance.
• @range rat fit the Shinko 244 3.00-17's with the lift kit successfully, but noted that the fit past the fender bolts was on the tight side.

What's the disclaimer you mentioned?

• Take the load ratings with a grain of salt. Trust, but verify.
• I generally link to and defer to the manufacturer's website wherever possible. This may differ from sites that you actually buy tires from.
• The tire options listed are what I was able to find on the internet and from various tire sites. Some of the details had to come from archived information or returned multiple results (the Duro HF319 tires in particular came up with several load ratings, some far exceeding spec).
• In other cases, the maximum speed rating has been listed but different options exist (e.g. SR244 45P and SR244 50P in the 3.00-17 size, with the difference being tire construction resulting in reduced weight). This is often the case for Front only, or Front and Rear tires.
• Additionally, tire options presented do occasionally drop below the maximum speed and load rating of the bike.
• If you are getting the tires mounted instead of doing it yourself, some non-CT125 riders report that "if you got the tires from Revzilla, they have an arrangement with Cycle Gear in some cities, for reduced price tire changing." The mechanic may offer a discount for certain sources.
• Be EXTRA careful when ordering your tires to make sure you match the specification, size and load rating for your needs.

Great information you've assembled here. Thank you!

 

[mcmd]

"A Retired Okie Living in Thailand" on YouTube has some videos with them:

Wow, he's got quite a place there. Accomplished rider, too! Love the tire evaluations.

 

[bryanchurch06]

I did the poor mans fender lift mod/re-drill and added the Shinko 244 3.0 Goldenboys front and rear. I haven't gotten a chance to ride it yet but I love the way it looks. I'll be sure to get some pics up here shortly.

I have the fender lift kit however I just installed the 2023 front rack and it has a horn bracket I would need to cut off to relocate the horn for fender clearance.

 

[Tex68w]

I have the fender lift kit however I just installed the 2023 front rack and it has a horn bracket I would need to cut off to relocate the horn for fender clearance.

I opted for the re-drill method on the fender after reading the numerous review mentioning it's issues and shortcomings. I removed the horn from its original bracket and rebolted it higher up where the bracket was mounted. A simple and free solution that will give you the necessary fender clearance under compression. I too am considering the 2023 Meter Stay in order to run the OEM rack.

 

[bryanchurch06]

I opted for the re-drill method on the fender after reading the numerous review mentioning it's issues and shortcomings. I removed the horn from its original bracket and rebolted it higher up where the bracket was mounted. A simple and free solution that will give you the necessary fender clearance under compression. I too am considering the 2023 Meter Stay in order to run the OEM rack.

If you use the oem bracket the horn bracket is welded to the rack, should be simple enough to cut off and relocate the horn, I am going to run 275x17 front tire so not an issue right now.

 

[brbo]

Hello,

I've found two tires I'm hoping people can post their experience or knowledge of, that I have not found in this forum. I like a little more offroad than OE and these seem to fit the build.

1- Mitas MC-32 - closest size to fit 100/80-17 (.79" wider - all specs below compared to OE size). I've had many Mitas tires on big heavy Adv bikes that have performed flawlessly with superior grip and longevity,,,




2- Heidenau K66 - this one comes in the 80/90-17 so this one will fit - but would like any experience or comments on this one


Thanks

​

 

[SLO]

Post Status: Still being maintained.

Hi all,
We have had quite a few threads on which tires, where to get them, etc. In an effort to get that information together, I'd like to start a single (preferably pinned) thread with a single post that has some of the most common tire options and where to get them. This will hopefully be a one-stop-shop for anyone looking for new tires. I will keep updating this first post with information as people add suggestions.

Please also include:
where you buy your tires if you got them at a good price or with exceptional service
links to the manufacturer's website for tires (I'm avoiding linking to Revzilla, etc.)

Tires
Tire options are generally targeted towards the US market unless specified otherwise. When choosing your tire select one that matches your terrain, speed and desired load rating. Please see the disclaimer at the bottom of this post before placing your order.

Model	Size	Type	Other Names/Notes	Load Designation (max)
Bridgestone Battlax BT-390	2.50-17	Street	Thai market / Webike	38L
Deestone D982	2.50-17	Motocross	Higher availability in UK, Japanese markets	38L
IRC SR244	2.50-17	Dual Sport	aka Shinko 244	38L
Deestone D982	2.75-17	Motocross	Higher availability in UK, Japanese markets	41P
Duro HF307	2.75-17	Dual Sport		41P
IRC FB3	2.75-17	Dual Sport		41P
IRC NR53	2.75-17	Street		41P
IRC TR-1	2.75-17	Trials		41P
Kenda K262	2.75-17	Trials		41P
IRC GP-5 (OE)	80/90-17	Mild Dual Sport	OEM tires	44P (front), 50P (rear)
CS C186	3.0-17	Trials	Cheng Shin C186	45N
IRC GP-1	3.0-17	Dual Sport		45P
Kenda K262	3.0-17	Trials		45P
Kenda K262	2.75-17	Trials		45P
Kenda K760 Trakmaster	70/100-17	Dual Sport	DOT approved 90/10 trail/street use tire	46M
IRC SR241	2.75-17	Trials	aka Shinko 241	47J
Duro HF319	2.75-17	Street	Vintage motorcycle tire style	47P
Vee Rubber VRM-022	2.75-17	Dual Sport		47R
Vee Rubber VRM-022	3.0-17	Dual Sport		48R
CST C7208	2.75-17	Dual Sport	aka MAXXIS CST C7208	47P
IRC SR244	3.0-17	Dual Sport	aka Shinko 244	50P
Michelin City Extra Scooter Tires	80/90-17	Street		50S
Michelin City Pro Tires	80/90-17	Street		50S
Michelin Pilot Street 2	80/90-17	Street		50S

Rating lookup chart

Rating	KG	Lb	Speed (km/h)	Speed (mph)
38L	132	291	120	75
41P	145	320	150	93
44P	160	353	150	93
45N	165	364	140	87
45P	165	364	150	93
46M	170	375	130	81
47J	175	386	100	62
47P	175	386	150	93
47R	175	386	170	106
48R	180	397	170	106
50P	190	419	150	93
50S	190	419	180	112

Where do users buy them?

• Rocky Mountain ATV MC (+2)
• Revzilla
• Denniskirk
• Midwest Traction

FAQ
Dude I just want some tires, what makes people happy?

• Shinko 241's in 2.75-17
• OR Shinko 244's in 2.5-17 front, 3.0-17 rear.

What combinations are known to work without modifying the bike?

• Max 2.75" on the front (80/19-17) with no rub, 3.0" with a tiny bit of rub at speed.
• Max 3.0" on the rear.

What happens if I go larger than this?

• Front: Will work, but will rub rocks on the inside of the fender rather than bouncing them around, and at higher speeds (45+ mph) the screws holding the mudflap will rub & make a sound) - +3 users/reviewers confirm.
• Rear: DaBinChe points out the inside of the rear fender area can rub with Shinko 244 3.0's, however the rub is largely cosmetic; larger or taller tires will increase this rubbing. +3 users confirm.
• For the front you can get a fender lift kit or redrill the holes to get slightly more clearance.
• @range rat fit the Shinko 244 3.00-17's with the lift kit successfully, but noted that the fit past the fender bolts was on the tight side.

What's the disclaimer you mentioned?

• Take the load ratings with a grain of salt. Trust, but verify.
• I generally link to and defer to the manufacturer's website wherever possible. This may differ from sites that you actually buy tires from.
• The tire options listed are what I was able to find on the internet and from various tire sites. Some of the details had to come from archived information or returned multiple results (the Duro HF319 tires in particular came up with several load ratings, some far exceeding spec).
• In other cases, the maximum speed rating has been listed but different options exist (e.g. SR244 45P and SR244 50P in the 3.00-17 size, with the difference being tire construction resulting in reduced weight). This is often the case for Front only, or Front and Rear tires.
• Additionally, tire options presented do occasionally drop below the maximum speed and load rating of the bike.
• If you are getting the tires mounted instead of doing it yourself, some non-CT125 riders report that "if you got the tires from Revzilla, they have an arrangement with Cycle Gear in some cities, for reduced price tire changing." The mechanic may offer a discount for certain sources.
• Be EXTRA careful when ordering your tires to make sure you match the specification, size and load rating for your needs.

Shinko 244 3/0 front and rear. Raise front fender by drilling two holes. Rear will rub until fender inside wears a little. Yuminashi 143 bbk with 238 cam,150 injector #5 NGK plug. Open air box=remove restriction. Change the exhaust.Use 20w-50 synthetic after break in. That is all !

 

[SLO]

Post Status: Still being maintained.

Hi all,
We have had quite a few threads on which tires, where to get them, etc. In an effort to get that information together, I'd like to start a single (preferably pinned) thread with a single post that has some of the most common tire options and where to get them. This will hopefully be a one-stop-shop for anyone looking for new tires. I will keep updating this first post with information as people add suggestions.

Please also include:
where you buy your tires if you got them at a good price or with exceptional service
links to the manufacturer's website for tires (I'm avoiding linking to Revzilla, etc.)

Tires
Tire options are generally targeted towards the US market unless specified otherwise. When choosing your tire select one that matches your terrain, speed and desired load rating. Please see the disclaimer at the bottom of this post before placing your order.

Model	Size	Type	Other Names/Notes	Load Designation (max)
Bridgestone Battlax BT-390	2.50-17	Street	Thai market / Webike	38L
Deestone D982	2.50-17	Motocross	Higher availability in UK, Japanese markets	38L
IRC SR244	2.50-17	Dual Sport	aka Shinko 244	38L
Deestone D982	2.75-17	Motocross	Higher availability in UK, Japanese markets	41P
Duro HF307	2.75-17	Dual Sport		41P
IRC FB3	2.75-17	Dual Sport		41P
IRC NR53	2.75-17	Street		41P
IRC TR-1	2.75-17	Trials		41P
Kenda K262	2.75-17	Trials		41P
IRC GP-5 (OE)	80/90-17	Mild Dual Sport	OEM tires	44P (front), 50P (rear)
CS C186	3.0-17	Trials	Cheng Shin C186	45N
IRC GP-1	3.0-17	Dual Sport		45P
Kenda K262	3.0-17	Trials		45P
Kenda K262	2.75-17	Trials		45P
Kenda K760 Trakmaster	70/100-17	Dual Sport	DOT approved 90/10 trail/street use tire	46M
IRC SR241	2.75-17	Trials	aka Shinko 241	47J
Duro HF319	2.75-17	Street	Vintage motorcycle tire style	47P
Vee Rubber VRM-022	2.75-17	Dual Sport		47R
Vee Rubber VRM-022	3.0-17	Dual Sport		48R
CST C7208	2.75-17	Dual Sport	aka MAXXIS CST C7208	47P
IRC SR244	3.0-17	Dual Sport	aka Shinko 244	50P
Michelin City Extra Scooter Tires	80/90-17	Street		50S
Michelin City Pro Tires	80/90-17	Street		50S
Michelin Pilot Street 2	80/90-17	Street		50S

Rating lookup chart

Rating	KG	Lb	Speed (km/h)	Speed (mph)
38L	132	291	120	75
41P	145	320	150	93
44P	160	353	150	93
45N	165	364	140	87
45P	165	364	150	93
46M	170	375	130	81
47J	175	386	100	62
47P	175	386	150	93
47R	175	386	170	106
48R	180	397	170	106
50P	190	419	150	93
50S	190	419	180	112

Where do users buy them?

• Rocky Mountain ATV MC (+2)
• Revzilla
• Denniskirk
• Midwest Traction

FAQ
Dude I just want some tires, what makes people happy?

• Shinko 241's in 2.75-17
• OR Shinko 244's in 2.5-17 front, 3.0-17 rear.

What combinations are known to work without modifying the bike?

• Max 2.75" on the front (80/19-17) with no rub, 3.0" with a tiny bit of rub at speed.
• Max 3.0" on the rear.

What happens if I go larger than this?

• Front: Will work, but will rub rocks on the inside of the fender rather than bouncing them around, and at higher speeds (45+ mph) the screws holding the mudflap will rub & make a sound) - +3 users/reviewers confirm.
• Rear: DaBinChe points out the inside of the rear fender area can rub with Shinko 244 3.0's, however the rub is largely cosmetic; larger or taller tires will increase this rubbing. +3 users confirm.
• For the front you can get a fender lift kit or redrill the holes to get slightly more clearance.
• @range rat fit the Shinko 244 3.00-17's with the lift kit successfully, but noted that the fit past the fender bolts was on the tight side.

What's the disclaimer you mentioned?

• Take the load ratings with a grain of salt. Trust, but verify.
• I generally link to and defer to the manufacturer's website wherever possible. This may differ from sites that you actually buy tires from.
• The tire options listed are what I was able to find on the internet and from various tire sites. Some of the details had to come from archived information or returned multiple results (the Duro HF319 tires in particular came up with several load ratings, some far exceeding spec).
• In other cases, the maximum speed rating has been listed but different options exist (e.g. SR244 45P and SR244 50P in the 3.00-17 size, with the difference being tire construction resulting in reduced weight). This is often the case for Front only, or Front and Rear tires.
• Additionally, tire options presented do occasionally drop below the maximum speed and load rating of the bike.
• If you are getting the tires mounted instead of doing it yourself, some non-CT125 riders report that "if you got the tires from Revzilla, they have an arrangement with Cycle Gear in some cities, for reduced price tire changing." The mechanic may offer a discount for certain sources.
• Be EXTRA careful when ordering your tires to make sure you match the specification, size and load rating for your needs.

Oh ,I forgot, Put a 13 tooth sprocket on the front. Now, you are about done. If that doesn't do it for you,then you were misled,about everything !

 

[SneakyDingo]

1- Mitas MC-32 - closest size to fit 100/80-17 (.79" wider - all specs below compared to OE size)

Interesting tire. 0.79" wider is a problem on the front for sure, so I'll wait until someone's tried to mount it before adding it to the tire list.

Heidenau K66 - this one comes in the 80/90-17 so this one will fit - but would like any experience or comments on this one

The product spec sheet from the manufacturer does not list a 80/90-17, but does list a 80/90-16. Can you double check this is the tire you were referring to?

 

[SneakyDingo]

Oh ,I forgot, Put a 13 tooth sprocket on the front. Now, you are about done. If that doesn't do it for you,then you were misled,about everything !

@SLO this thread is about tires. SR244's are already on the list.

 

[ShieldArc]

A 6ply tire.

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[brbo]

Interesting tire. 0.79" wider is a problem on the front for sure, so I'll wait until someone's tried to mount it before adding it to the tire list.


The product spec sheet from the manufacturer does not list a 80/90-17, but does list a 80/90-16. Can you double check this is the tire you were referring to?

Hey SD,,

I'm in Canada and one of our large online retailers has it listed as a 80/90-17

Heidenau K66 4-Season Scooter Front Tire

Purchase the Heidenau K66 4-Season Scooter Tire at Canada's Motorcycle. Free shipping and Easy returns.

fortnine.ca

However Heidenau does not, close though, shame I had a set of K60 on 1190r and they were pretty good and took forever to burn off

https://www.heidenautires.com/product/k-66-2/

I would prefer a Mitas however the E07+ Dakar was and is to this day the best dual sport I've used - I think I went through 3 sets... great tire but they have not much in the Trail sizes - but close that's why I included it in my original post

 

[brbo]

I found a couple Mitas in CT125 size... however not much of a knobby closer to OE

 

[SneakyDingo]

Hey SD,,

I'm in Canada and one of our large online retailers has it listed as a 80/90-17

Heidenau K66 4-Season Scooter Front Tire

Purchase the Heidenau K66 4-Season Scooter Tire at Canada's Motorcycle. Free shipping and Easy returns.

fortnine.ca

However Heidenau does not, close though, shame I had a set of K60 on 1190r and they were pretty good and took forever to burn off

https://www.heidenautires.com/product/k-66-2/

I would prefer a Mitas however the E07+ Dakar was and is to this day the best dual sport I've used - I think I went through 3 sets... great tire but they have not much in the Trail sizes - but close that's why I included it in my original post

I know that guy, love his videos . That's still out of stock when I look at it, which is not quite meeting the bar for me saying such a tire actually exists. The reason I asked was I've had issues doing background checks on the tires where motorcycle companies list products that either don't exist, are no longer made, etc. as "out of stock" and that one is listed as out of stock for me.

Sometimes it's because they have had an order placed at one point after fat fingering the data entry and refunding the customer, and then they can't delete it because the financial system doesn't let them due to limitations applied on the system software (if the order exists, and you delete the SKU, then you have an order for an item that doesn't exist, and that causes all kind of auditing and system integrity issues, so it's easier to leave it there, mark it out of stock, and refund the original order). That's different to a tire production company listing models that aren't available in my market, which is actually somewhat common, especially when considering the USA vs. Au/NZ vs. Thai vs. Japan market.

I'll add it to the list if I can find at least one supplier who stocks it.