Anybody have experience with bent rims?

[dmonkey]

I've had these aluminum Excel rims bookmarked:

SP TAKEGAWA : Aluminum Wide Wheel Rim Kit [06-09-0020]

Product Description: SP TAKEGAWA Aluminum Wide Wheel Rim Kit [06-09-0020] : Fits:HONDA CT125 JA65-1000001- : HONDA CT125 (JA55-1000001-):... - Webike

japan.webike.net

Buchanan's said they're not something they were able to find in their Excel catalogs to order, so you'd have to track down the Excel part number to see if they can get them, or you can buy from Webike and have them shipped to their shop.

In Thailand those rims are available on assembled wheels using OEM hubs and a BARTubeless setup, and that is the option that appeals to me the most. I've been emailing BARTubeless back and forth about ordering and might finally be in contact with someone who can get them ordered for shipping to the USA. Will start a thread for it if that happens, though if anyone else is seriously interested in that I recommend reaching out to stefanobassi [at] bartubeless.it directly as it's a low priority for me at the moment.

 

[Farmer Mike]

Well, I have 95% of everything here, ready to replace my tires (DURO HF-308's 3.0 X 17), and balance them... any suggestions/preferences as to glue on weights vs, spoke weights? Not trying to open a big debate, just wondering what people like...

 

[dmonkey]

I haven't found the need to run any weights yet. If they were far out of balance, I prefer spoke weights on spoked wheels. Honda have OEM spoke weights on other bikes, they don't bother to apply them to the Honda Trail.

 

[G19Tony]

I've had these aluminum Excel rims bookmarked:

SP TAKEGAWA : Aluminum Wide Wheel Rim Kit [06-09-0020]

Product Description: SP TAKEGAWA Aluminum Wide Wheel Rim Kit [06-09-0020] : Fits:HONDA CT125 JA65-1000001- : HONDA CT125 (JA55-1000001-):... - Webike

japan.webike.net

Buchanan's said they're not something they were able to find in their Excel catalogs to order, so you'd have to track down the Excel part number to see if they can get them, or you can buy from Webike and have them shipped to their shop.

In Thailand those rims are available on assembled wheels using OEM hubs and a BARTubeless setup, and that is the option that appeals to me the most. I've been emailing BARTubeless back and forth about ordering and might finally be in contact with someone who can get them ordered for shipping to the USA. Will start a thread for it if that happens, though if anyone else is seriously interested in that I recommend reaching out to stefanobassi [at] bartubeless.it directly as it's a low priority for me at the moment.

I would be interested in that action.

 

[Farmer Mike]

Well, I pulled my front wheel yesterday and played around with the balance stand... I guess I would have to agree it doesn't "need" to be balanced... it was exactly 1/4 ounce out of balance... I did of course go ahead and mount a spoke weight since I had it on the stand, but I suspect one would be hard pressed to claim they could feel or notice a tire out of balance by 1/4 ounce at 50 MPH... so Honda is likely right to save the labor that would be involved in balancing the OEM wheels/tires. I'll be changing them out for the DURO's maybe this weekend, have to see how the weather is... if it's decent, I'm gonna ride and wait for rain to swap them out. I picked up the weights at Rocky Mountain, saw cheaper ones elsewhere, but decided I wanted to go with chromed brass.

I'm watching closely the discussion on the wider rims. Another member here did something similar, but with an even wider rear wheel... I'm a big fan of getting a wider footprint under my bike... especially if I'm going to ride it off road... generally I will only be on pavement and or improved forest roads... personally I don't plan to put Donkey in any mud unless there are just no reasonable alternatives... but it begs for a wider footprint just for everyday use... as I see it the only downside is a slight reduction is MPG, maybe a MPH or two as well, at 9 hp... everything you do matters.

 

[dmonkey]

I'm still waiting on a quote from the CEO of Bart Factory (Bartubeless), but the sizes he provided from their "Bart Pacific factory" for the Excel rims with Bartubeless installed are:

• FR 17xMT1.60, RR 17xMT1.85
• FR 17xMT2.15, RR 17xMT2.50

Stock rims are 17x1.60 front and rear.

 

[BaldRider]

I just saw these...

TWR : TubelessSpokeAluminum Wheel [BP-B0341BKBK]

Product Description: TWR TubelessSpokeAluminum Wheel [BP-B0341BKBK] : Fits:HONDA CT125 23- JA65 : HONDA CT125 20-22 JA55:Front an... - Webike

japan.webike.net

 

[dmonkey]

Though it says TWR, the manufacturer is listed as Yoko, so I think those are the Yoko CrossX ones.

Aluminum Super Cub wheels on a '23 Trail 125?

if its an open discussion, expect some opposite opinions and don't get offended when they present themselves either. from my perspective, personally, i could give 2 fks what anyone else does with their bikes. I know mine do what i want them to. Don't want conflicting opinions? don't share yours...

hondatrail125.com

I haven't seen any reviews of them, but they look like a good option.

My Bartubeless wheels were expected to be delivered today but the FedEx tracking shows a failed attempt to deliver them in a different nearby city. Bartubeless sent me a PDF of the shipping label so I know the correct address is on it. Will see what tomorrow brings.

 

[Ben The Scorpion]

I just saw these...

TWR : TubelessSpokeAluminum Wheel [BP-B0341BKBK]

Product Description: TWR TubelessSpokeAluminum Wheel [BP-B0341BKBK] : Fits:HONDA CT125 23- JA65 : HONDA CT125 20-22 JA55:Front an... - Webike

japan.webike.net

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These are 18"? Site shows 460mm.
I like the look of these rims. Would need new tires, and probably have to lift the front fender . Probably good for street riding. I dunno if I'd want to take them through mud or gravel tho.

 

[Kritou]

I just saw these...

TWR : TubelessSpokeAluminum Wheel [BP-B0341BKBK]

Product Description: TWR TubelessSpokeAluminum Wheel [BP-B0341BKBK] : Fits:HONDA CT125 23- JA65 : HONDA CT125 20-22 JA55:Front an... - Webike

japan.webike.net

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Apart from street tyres what other rubber is available for tubeless rims?

I‘m not being contentious here but does anyone one have first hand knowledge or experience of using tubed tyres in a tubeless setting? The usual claims are differences in rubber porosity and sidewall stiffness. I have written to and asked the question of a couple of the larger tyre manufactures but had no response

 

[BaldRider]

These are 18"? Site shows 460mm.
I like the look of these rims. Would need new tires, and probably have to lift the front fender . Probably good for street riding. I dunno if I'd want to take them through mud or gravel tho.

Maybe the externally positioned spokes add an inch to the diameter but doesn't affect the tire size? The specs say they fit 80/90-17 tires.

They are probably fine on dirt/gravel as long as you don't care if they stay pretty.

 

[m in sc]

ive never seen so many people -literally- try to reinvent the wheel.

 

[dmonkey]

ive never seen so many people -literally- try to reinvent the wheel.

Honda themselves have multiple patents for tubeless wire spoked rims in recent years

 

[m in sc]

Im aware. Thats not my point.

 

[SneakyDingo]

I understand @m in sc, you're asking us to add more people to the list. ON IT!!

 

[Daytripper]

I have been wanting to look into having an extra set of wheels, and I could see these tubeless wheels as an option for running street tires and the OEM ones as for a good off road tire.

 

[Kritou]

I have been wanting to look into having an extra set of wheels, and I could see these tubeless wheels as an option for running street tires and the OEM ones as for a good off road tire.

Or the economy option of a tubeless wheel on the back and oem up front?

 

[BaldRider]

One of the top shops in the country for that may be around an hour or so from you if you're looking for a professional repair and truing.

Buchanan's Spoke & Rim, Inc - Contact Us

Manufacturer of motorcycle spokes and rims

www.buchananspokes.com

After nearly a year of not getting my wheel fixed, I finally took it during my lunch break today. They are 20 minutes from where I am forced to sit to have money for motorcycles.