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OEM Top case

vintagegarage

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I just noticed that the photo at the bottom of the page linked by dmonkey in the "Colors for next year" thread shows the OEM Top Case that has been on Beezdeals for a couple of weeks now.. nice to see it in a Cub House ad. Pretty pricey with shipping from Thailand, but I still want one.. LOL.. Also a ton of Gcraft items on that one.. front rack, headlight guard, center rack, bumpers, crash bars. Also Barkbusters.. It looks like something I might like to duplicate.. I wonder what the resin on the front fender says..

dmonkey's link to the Cub House page:
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/New-CT125-2024/

Beezdeals:
https://beezdeals.com/product/genuine-oem-top-box-honda-ct125-trail-125/

Photo from Cub House:
 

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The two new CT125 colors were recently shown at "Thailand BIG MOTOR SALE 2024" and well kitted out just like that photo. You may be able to find additional photos and videos shot from attendees of that auto and motorcycle show posted on social media. I didn't notice any that got a good angle of whatever the fender resin is that's in the position where Japanese market bikes have a Type 2 moped or small motorcycle (小型自動二輪車) designation decal.

Aside from the OEM top box with "CT125" emblem on the back of it, there was also a rectangular soft bag on display. I couldn't make out the brand other than that it looks to be a third party item, "ST" with a circle around it for the logo.


Here are some photos from a Webike article that covered Thai Honda's motorcycles at the show:


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New-Honda-CT125-4.jpg

The Pearl Sugarcane Beige used on the Super Cub is certainly an off-white color in person, so I am curious how well it looks, or doesn't, with the white Barkbusters in person. That might look better in a photograph than in person.
 

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dmonkey, thanks.. I am pretty sure that soft bag is the combo "Fuel Your Wanderlust" set from StreamTrail, probably in silver to match the previous year's silver color and close enough to Pearl Smoky Gray to use with the new color. If so, it also has a rear side bag as part of the set. The accessories on that one appear to be H2C, but I don't know of an H2C crash bar, so the crash bar might be some other brand or something new from H2C. That one with the soft bag in the photo also has a fender resin, and I wonder what that says as well. The City Trail and Country Trekking resins both said H2C, and Military Campster said Kitaco, and the Stanley Special said Stanley.
 

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I found a video that shows the resin on the front fender up close. It is the H2C "H" logo with the text "H2C" after it.

https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/resin-fender-fr-black/
They actually have it listed twice with the same part number for some reason.
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/resin-fender-fr/

The brush guard looks like this Kitaco one:
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/kitaco-bush-guard-ct125/

Both of those items are found in their previous catalogs:
https://leadform.thaihonda.co.th/uploads/catalog/New CT125_New-CT125_de74d.pdf
https://leadform.thaihonda.co.th/uploads/catalog/CT125_CT125-new-color-2023_8736b.pdf

Couldn't find the latest catalog. I suspect it will be linked at https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/New-CT125-2024/ same as the others have been once it's published.
 

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I found a video that shows the resin on the front fender up close. It is the H2C "H" logo with the text "H2C" after it.

https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/resin-fender-fr-black/
They actually have it listed twice with the same part number for some reason.
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/resin-fender-fr/

The brush guard looks like this Kitaco one:
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/kitaco-bush-guard-ct125/

Both of those items are found in their previous catalogs:
https://leadform.thaihonda.co.th/uploads/catalog/New CT125_New-CT125_de74d.pdf
https://leadform.thaihonda.co.th/uploads/catalog/CT125_CT125-new-color-2023_8736b.pdf

Couldn't find the latest catalog. I suspect it will be linked at https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/New-CT125-2024/ same as the others have been once it's published.
Thanks.. much appreciated. I now see the H2C resin as you say, and I also noticed what appears to be some sort of steering damper on it as well in that video. I installed one of those H2C resins on one of my reds and one of my greens. Other than the H2C resin, it is hard to find any H2C parts on that Trailor Made CT125. The racks and bumpers appear to be Gcraft, but I don't think the brush guard is Kitaco. The Kitaco brush guard I bought from Beezdeals, and installed on my yellow Trail 125 looks like the one on both the beezdeals page and also the Cub House page you referenced. However, it came with simple u-bolts to mount it instead of the gizmos in the photos on both ordering pages. It also is flat. I think the one on the Trailor made is the Gcraft one, the same as I installed on one of my red Trail 125s:
https://beezdeals.com/product/gcraft-engine-guard-fit-for-honda-ct125/
The chain guard does appear to be H2C, but that might be the only H2C part other than the fender resin that is on the model. The steps almost look like the OEM Rally Steps sold in Japan, but I think they are probably something else. I am not sure what they are.
There are also decorations on the left and right engine side covers. I am not sure what brand they are.
It's also odd that it has a passenger leg shield with no rear pegs. I don't recognize the brand of that leg shield.
I can't find the latest catalog either. The 2024 (2023) was here:
https://leadform.thaihonda.co.th/uploads/catalog/CT125_CT125-new-color-2023_8736b.pdf
 

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You're right, I was mixing up the two different brush guards pictured. The "Pearl Smoky Gray" appears to be outfitted with the Kitaco ones, while the "Pearl Sugarcane Beige" appears to have the Kitaco ones.

The minimal engine covers on one appear to be GCraft ones
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/new-gcraft-crank-case-cover_r/
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/new-gcraft-crank-case-cover_r-2/

The more decorative one looks to be H2C
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/crank-case-cover-silver/

I was not aware that Barkbusters also made grips until seeing them in that video.
 

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Thanks for the research, much appreciated. I see now that those engine decorations look to be Gcraft, so most of the stuff on that one is Gcraft. I also think I made a mistake calling the damper a steering damper.. when I look more carefully, I think it is mounted solidly in the front, so now I think it is to reduce engine vibration. I am doing searches now to see if I can figure out the brand. Webike sells a different one:
https://japan.webike.net/magazine/p...ext=CT125 Hunter Cub. 16 min read. ACTIVE has

Good spotting on the grips.. I hadn't notice that, and also just noticed that the Barkbusters hand guards tie into the bar ends. I wonder if the Barkbusters grips, hand guards and bar end weights are part of a kit. We've seen plenty of CT125s with Barkbuster bar end hand guards, but I don't think we have ever seen them on a Cub House show bike before.
 

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The steering damper appears to be from "HYPERPRO". I agree, on this bike it's probably most useful for reducing vibration rather than keeping the bike out of a wobble.
https://hyperpro.com/steering-dampers/

I see there's a CT125 bracket available for them:
https://japan.webike.net/products/26023018.html

The only Barkbusters guards I see listed on the Thai Honda site right now are the single point attachment ones:
https://www.thaihonda.co.th/cubhouse/accessory/barkbusters-handle-guard/

I installed the two point mount ones for the Grom/CT125 on mine and yeah, it would be nice if it were available as a kit rather than needing to purchase the hardware and the plastic guards separately. I have also installed the VPS skidplates and bar end weights which were optional accessories.

https://barkbusters.net/what-fits-my/honda/ct-125-2020-on/

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I came across photos of a different top box that appears to wear the same "CT125" badge as the OEM one mentioned in the original post. This top box has a side hinge design.

It seems there is a "together touring" package offered by Cub House for 2-up riding in Thailand. The package is a buddy seat, backrest, buddy footpegs, aluminum top box, and exhaust pipe guard. It's the same exhaust pipe guard we were trying to identify. I don't have much interest in carrying a passenger on my CT125, but if I did I think the pillion seat from this kit is the best looking option I've seen.



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Thai Honda's website has been down for weeks now, but I suspect it may be an OEM accessory seat for the Thai market, available through Cub Houses there.
Translation from their Facebook post:

BUDDY SEAT. Additional back seat for strap. Cool design. Mini Touring version. You don't feel tired when facing a long way because the cushion is covered with quality PVC leather material. You are not afraid of going to rain because it is designed to be waterproof and rust.
 

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I've tried looking at videos shot within oriental countries and I don't see any Honda Trail 125s going up and down the street. I see a bunch of no-name, weird brands but no Hondas. Has anyone seen videos where one can definitely see lots of people specifically riding Hondas? (I don't use the phrase "Asian", as the continent of Asia has 48 countries including such places as Israel, Turkey, etc., I'm specifically interested in oriental countries like Thailand, Vietnam or Korea). Thanks!
 

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The Honda Wave is a very popular model in the countries you mention, so it's possible you may be seeing unfamiliar Honda models not sold in the USA. Many of the Honda Cub-type motorcycles sold in those countries are also offered in a more economical 110cc displacement option, with the 125cc bikes being premium $$$ models.

The Honda Trail 125 (CT125) is not sold in Vietnam so folks have gone to the extent of importing CT125 parts and kit-building a clone of the bike using an engine and frame from other Honda 125cc models that are sold there.

These are the countries in Asia I was able to confirm the CT125 is officially sold in: Japan, Thailand, Indonesia, and Republic of Korea. There are some owners in Myanmar and Singapore as well, but I couldn't find if it's officially sold in those countries or if they have grey market imports. There are some interviews with the designers of the bike which confirm the main target market for this Thai-built bike was originally Japan. The only country I've been able to find sales plans listed for is Japan, where Honda expect to put 12,000 units on the market for the 2025 model year alone.

Here are some links to (machine translated) interviews with the designers:
 
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