WeBike Japan now stocking most Honda OEM Accessories

trailblazer · Apr 24, 2023

Wow guys, great work. I did not realize what a can of worms I was opening just by taking a dive on that initial purchase. Still, it's so odd that the US is getting bikes with missing features. The missing connector in the headlight to connect electronics is particularly absurd, in my opinion, but this rack thing just feels like a mix-up somehow.

It's also worth mentioning that on Instagram, Honda Powersports US confirmed that the front and center carriers are the only compatible accessories for the 2023 US models. Considering our model doesn't have the new rack, but Canada's seems to, I wonder if that means the Honda OEM top box, top box mount, side rack, and side box will be available to local Canadian buyers?

MonotoneCulprit · May 17, 2023

It seems some sort of error was made and I have been shipped a second 2023 Meter Stay months after receiving my first one. If you are planning to slot the Honda OEM Front Rack onto your 2022 or earlier Trail you need to swap in this Meter Stay in order to have the necessary mounting points.

If you are near CT or willing to pay for shipping I'll send this thing over. Believe it's like $50 to get this over from Japan so maybe $30 is fair? I'm honestly not sure.

BaldRider · May 23, 2023

I ordered some OEM Honda parts from Webike Saturday night and it just arrived three days later. Is that normal?

JPMcGraw · May 23, 2023

all my stuff has come in 3 days so that's my experience too

dmonkey · May 23, 2023

Same here with the exception of any items not in stock, or a few times when I used EMS and that was slower than FedEx and DHL. Webike is a huge company and also a wholesaler to motorcycle shops and other parts distributors, so they likely participate in one or more of the U.S. trusted trader programs. That's how international companies either skip U.S. customs inspection entirely or get their shipments prioritized for inspection.

vintagegarage · May 23, 2023

My experience too, not always that though, so I would say not unexpected, rather than normal. As I understand it, Webike doesn't ship on Saturday or Sunday, Japan time. You usually have three choices, FedEx Express, DHL, or EMS. EMS is cheapest for small, light packages, and in the USA, the package gets delivered by USPS in about a week after they ship. EMS is sometimes a bit of a problem for me, as I have to jump through hoops with the postman to avoid being home to sign for the package when it arrives. DHL seems to work best for me, as you get a text message from DHL giving you a link to electronically sign. FedEx usually delivers to my house with no signature required. Sometimes two or three days may go by between when you order and when you get the notice that it has been shipped. If you chose DHL, then 3 days delivery after you get the shipped notice is pretty normal. For me, using DHL, counting the lag between order and shipping, I'd say normal is I receive my items about 5 days after I order. I think dmonkey is correct. The parcels seem to breeze through customs with no delay, either in Yokohama, Hong Kong, Cincinnati, Miami, Los Angeles, or other hubs. Shipping costs sometimes exceed the cost of the goods, especially for heavy parts.

Low-gear · Jun 26, 2023

MonotoneCulprit said:
Took me all of 30-45 minutes to swap in the '23 Meter Stay. Can confirm that it is extremely easy. Bent the cable run a little bit so I could slip the cables in and out without having to disconnect them. Next up is to install the Front Rack and windshield. Imagine that should be a fairly quick job as well.

This video shows the process of swapping the meter stay. Just to confirm, is this same process that you are saying is extremely easy?

MonotoneCulprit · Jun 26, 2023

Low-gear said:
This video shows the process of swapping the meter stay. Just to confirm, is this same process that you are saying is extremely easy?

This video is referenced a lot, but you absolutely do not need to do 95% of what they do in this video. The '23 meter stay is a straight swap for the '22 meter stay. This was a while ago now, but I believe the only "change" was that the '23 meter stay accepts slightly smaller (or slightly bigger, I can't remember) bolts than the '22. The meter stay is connected to the bike by 2 total bolts. You disconnect the headlight to give yourself some room to work, disconnect the meter/gauge/speedometer, disconnect the meter stay, pull the existing routed cables out of the old meter stay, bolt on the new meter stay, route the cables through the new meter stay, reattach the meter/gauge/speedometer, reconnect the headlight, and you're done.

Overall, it is an extremely straightforward and easy process. I am by no means a mechanic and it took me all of 30-45 minutes to do in a tight shed with very little space and even less light.

Low-gear · Jun 26, 2023

MonotoneCulprit said:
This video is referenced a lot, but you absolutely do not need to do 95% of what they do in this video. The '23 meter stay is a straight swap for the '22 meter stay. This was a while ago now, but I believe the only "change" was that the '23 meter stay accepts slightly smaller (or slightly bigger, I can't remember) bolts than the '22. The meter stay is connected to the bike by 2 total bolts. You disconnect the headlight to give yourself some room to work, disconnect the meter/gauge/speedometer, disconnect the meter stay, pull the existing routed cables out of the old meter stay, bolt on the new meter stay, route the cables through the new meter stay, reattach the meter/gauge/speedometer, reconnect the headlight, and you're done.

Overall, it is an extremely straightforward and easy process. I am by no means a mechanic and it took me all of 30-45 minutes to do in a tight shed with very little space and even less light.

Ah, good to hear. That process was more than I wanted to get into.
I really want the OEM windshield and front rack.

Low-gear · Jun 26, 2023

Taking a deeper look into this, in the video I posted above, they are swapping not only the meter stay but also the fork top bridge. The 2023+ bridge takes M8 bolts while the older one is M6. Makes sense since the newer ones need to be equipped from the factory to carry the extra weight of the rack/payload and windshield and wind load. Realistically I think the M6 bolts will be fine as long as you don't put some ridiculous weight on the rack. With this in mind, you can forgo replacing the top bridge.

vintagegarage · Jun 26, 2023

Low-gear said:
Taking a deeper look into this, in the video I posted above, they are swapping not only the meter stay but also the fork top bridge. The 2023+ bridge takes M8 bolts while the older one is M6. Makes sense since the newer ones need to be equipped from the factory to carry the extra weight of the rack/payload and windshield and wind load. Realistically I think the M6 bolts will be fine as long as you don't put some ridiculous weight on the rack. With this in mind, you can forgo replacing the top bridge.

Low gear. I hear you on the work to change the top bridge. A young pup could change the top bridge and the meter stay in less than an hour, but it would probably take me a half-day. Now that both parts are available for order at your local Honda dealer, and you don't have to pay for shipping from Japan, there is also the lower cost factor in play. If your local dealer is like mine, they don't charge any shipping, so the cost of both parts together is around $100. We've discussed this before, and while I wouldn't take Monotone's short-cut, his work now has many miles and several months of proven riding on it without a failure.
I rode my Trail 125 with the windshield on it last night for the first time, and I would tend to call both the OEM windshield and OEM front rack more bling than useful. I can see why you would like them as they look great! The EOM front rack though is teenie weenie, and you won't be able to hold much there, so overloading the front rack won't be an issue. The windshield is so small that it really doesn't do much shielding, and at 50-55 mph, I can't imagine that it puts any stress on the top bridge. Also, there is nothing but open space behind the windshield and if you try to tuck a cheeseburger behind the windshield, it will end up falling on the ground, before you get to eat it. If you are looking for practically, an H2C front rack, and a bigger windshield would be better choice. If you are interested in looks or OEM specifically, then the OEM is the best choice. IMHO

Low-gear · Jun 26, 2023

vintagegarage said:
Low gear. I hear you on the work to change the top bridge. A young pup could change the top bridge and the meter stay in less than an hour, but it would probably take me a half-day. Now that both parts are available for order at your local Honda dealer, and you don't have to pay for shipping from Japan, there is also the lower cost factor in play. If your local dealer is like mine, they don't charge any shipping, so the cost of both parts together is around $100. We've discussed this before, and while I wouldn't take Monotone's short-cut, his work now has many miles and several months of proven riding on it without a failure.
I rode my Trail 125 with the windshield on it last night for the first time, and I would tend to call both the OEM windshield and OEM front rack more bling than useful. I can see why you would like them as they look great! The EOM front rack though is teenie weenie, and you won't be able to hold much there, so overloading the front rack won't be an issue. The windshield is so small that it really doesn't do much shielding, and at 50-55 mph, I can't imagine that it puts any stress on the top bridge. Also, there is nothing but open space behind the windshield and if you try to tuck a cheeseburger behind the windshield, it will end up falling on the ground, before you get to eat it. If you are looking for practically, an H2C front rack, and a bigger windshield would be better choice. If you are interested in looks or OEM specifically, then the OEM is the best choice. IMHO

Good info, thanks. Slightly disappointing to hear the windshield isn’t very functional.

Low-gear · Jun 27, 2023

The front rack and meter stay are both available domestically from Partszilla for very reasonable cost/shipping. Anyone have a better lead on the windshield, other than Webike?

MonotoneCulprit · Jun 27, 2023

Just chiming in to agree with vintage. The windshield is a fantastic cosmetic piece, but does not do all that much to actually divert wind. It is quite small, and the seating position is very upright so you would need a significantly larger windshield to get any real coverage. That being said it looks great, and prevents me from taking rocks to the chest so I'm happy.

vintagegarage · Jun 30, 2023

Here is my latest "Old and Slow". All the OEM accessories installed except the grip heater, and the plastic rear side box. I'll put the rear plastic side box on my next 2023 Trail 125 which is hopefully arriving soon, and I may send the grip heaters to one of the Canadians. If you want to see what the windshield looks like from the rider's perspective, skip to the test ride near the end of the video. The camera is a chest camera.

quinnsd13 · Jul 9, 2023

Donkeythekidd said:
Yeah still to much for me. I do like that it uses the bikes key to open the box and how it has a helmet holder. I'd like to see more pictures of it. Since this is an OEM Honda part I wonder when or if it will be available in the States. And hopefully cheaper. Until then I'll stick with my cheapo side bag. I have all my tire change equipment in there - air compressor pump, tire tube, spoons, wrenches ect. And then behind it I have a First Aid Kit.
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Happen to have links/names for the bracket and bags you chose? That looks exactly like what I wanted to accomplish on mine. I wanted tool storage and first-aid!

Mich84 · Jul 13, 2023

This might be the spot to ask this question--give a holler if not and I'll delete the post. Trying to track if this is a supported/3rd party bracket (red oval) for mounting the meter atop a guard. Contacted a seller on eBay concerning that front rack/headlamp combo and asked for information on the meter bracket/support without success. I've checked what I can find on offer state-side and through Honda-Japan/Thailand, but not sure if I'm just missing something. Anyone got ideas?

dmonkey · Jul 13, 2023

One glaring question there, where are the wires? The stock wiring harness likely can't reach that far to plug into the meter, so you'd need to extend the wires either by hand or with a very special cable extension that uses the plug for the meter, which isn't a common one but I'm sure you can get your hands on it to DIY something.

Here's more photos of that bike:

Smol wonder: A Honda CT125 inspired by Mad Max

There’s something irresistible about tiny motorcycles. According to scientists, we’re drawn to objects that are smaller than usual because they pose less danger, they remind us of toys, and they give us a feeling of control. That would explain the cultural appeal of mini marvels like Japanese...

www.bikeexif.com

It's built by Chayakrit ‘Win’ Kaewwongwan of the "MotolordD" brand in Thailand.

Edit: Looking at the photos more, it seems that there are wires in some of the photos, not in others, and the gauge isn't even there in one of them. Looks like it's not a great cable route but he likely just pulled the stock cable down to reach it but it's just draped to there. Probably not enough slack to secure it to the metal bits.

Mich84 · Jul 13, 2023

dmonkey said:
One glaring question there, where are the wires? The stock wiring harness likely can't reach that far to plug into the meter, so you'd need to extend the wires either by hand or with a very special cable extension that uses the plug for the meter, which isn't a common one but I'm sure you can get your hands on it to DIY something.

Here's more photos of that bike:

Smol wonder: A Honda CT125 inspired by Mad Max

There’s something irresistible about tiny motorcycles. According to scientists, we’re drawn to objects that are smaller than usual because they pose less danger, they remind us of toys, and they give us a feeling of control. That would explain the cultural appeal of mini marvels like Japanese...

www.bikeexif.com

It's built by Chayakrit ‘Win’ Kaewwongwan of the "MotolordD" brand in Thailand.

Edit: Looking at the photos more, it seems that there are wires in some of the photos, not in others, and the gauge isn't even there in one of them. Looks like it's not a great cable route but he likely just pulled the stock cable down to reach it but it's just draped to there. Probably not enough slack to secure it to the metal bits.

I figured I'd need to route some DIY cabling and clean it up a fair bit. I had checked with a few of those sellers on eBay and all had said they didn't have information on whatever bracket attached the meter--that's why I couldn't figure out if it was indeed OEM and the language barrier had possibly caused a confusion or if it was a full custom job. Appreciate the lookin-out.

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Im.Crenshaw · Aug 19, 2023

bryanchurch06 said:
I have nothing but good things to say about webike, item shipped on 22nd and received in SD on 25th, well packaged and exactly what I ordered, in today's world what more can I ask. Hopefully I will get this installed on Friday if the weather cooperates.

Will you show me what it looks like on the bike?

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