I'm frustrate about how to take my little donkey with camping trailer?

[George]

My family wants to buy a trailer for camping. I don’t like large trailers, under 18ft is best. Maybe a 1-month trip. Maybe a weekend trip. I have SUVs that can tow 5000 pound and can buy an F150 at any time to tow an RV.

Toy haulers are too heavy and most are designed for large equipment.
5 wheels will not be considered.
RVs with rubber roofs (leaky and moldy ones produced on the assembly line delaminate Moving furniture), the quality is really unreliable and not considered. not be considered.
The cargo trailer conversion DIY was the original plan, 18x7.5 , barn door, all aluminum, no wood, aluminum roof, high R-value insulation, less than GVWR 4000 pounds, lithium battery, no propane, perfect for traveling with CT125. But time is too tight to build.

I have looked at some fiberglass RVs and they are very durable and retain their value. I want to buy one for temporary use for 2 years. The biggest question is if the fiberglass RV + F150 5ft bed, how to carry the CT125?
What can you do?

 

[dmonkey]

What features do you need in the camper?

If you don't need full amenities someone else on the forum had mentioned this modular fiberglass toy hauler & camper a while back:

Another idea if you're pulling a trailer you can consider a front mount motorcycle hitch carrier on the F-150.

 

[Chinjab]

I have some similar questions rolling around as I can anticipate the same sort of scenario some time in the future.

Just wondering... that picture of the Scamp...

What about mounting a carrier between the front hitch post and the body of the trailer itself and putting the CT up there?

Or, a hitch carrier on the back?

These bikes only weigh 300lb. Should be able to handle it, no? At the most, some heavier springs and some more welding would reinforce whatever needed reinforcing.

 

[dmonkey]

What about mounting a carrier between the front hitch post and the body of the trailer itself and putting the CT up there?

Usually you want to keep anything up front mounted inside of the A-frame/tow-bar area because in a sharp turn the rear of the towing vehicle can get in there pretty tight. It's not uncommon for travel trailers with a boxier front to have bumper/tailgate damage on their front corners from people backing the rig up and kind of jackknifing the tow vehicle into the corner of the trailer. Wouldn't want to crush a motorcycle in there.

 

[George]

If it's hooked to the back, it will seriously affect the tongue weight. 300 pounds is 10% of a 3,000 pound trailer, and it's too far back, the leverage is magnified. Putting things wide on the A-frame will squeeze the back of the truck when turning or backing up.

 

[oldskool]

Seems like two options. In the bed of the truck. Easiest least likely to have complications. If you need the bed for other duties then front mount is an option. That extra weight out front can cause issues with handling I have been told. If you are buying a new F150 yu might want one set up to handle plow duty. The front end will be set up to handle the extra weight out front......

 

[Base Camp]

What features do you need in the camper?

If you don't need full amenities someone else on the forum had mentioned this modular fiberglass toy hauler & camper a while back:

Another idea if you're pulling a trailer you can consider a front mount motorcycle hitch carrier on the F-150.

 

[Base Camp]

It works great for us…

 

[George]

It works great for us…

It's okay to put it on the front for short distances. After searching on the Internet, I found many people complaining that gravel and bugs are a big problem if the motorcycle is not covered. If the motorcycle is covered, engine heat is a problem.
There are also some front suspension steering issues. Issues with blocking the driver's view.
If the journey is more than 5,000 kilometers, I would not dare to try it.

Today I saw a post on FB. He removed the front wheel. I wonder if anyone have tried it? Maybe it is a solution? It is just a little troublesome.
Will the wheel fall off while riding?

 

[George]

Keep stealing ideas here and there

Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers • View topic - Going To Build New 8.5 x 18ft V-nose - non-Toy Hauler

 

[John2]

Ive been trying to figure out how to carry my 125 with my Scamp. I have a slightly different issue (I have a Scamp 19, which is closer to a 5th wheel than a traditional trailer, so I can’t use the bed). Curious to see what you end up doing.

I will say the fiberglass trailers tend to be solid, but you can still have small leaks. Keep an eye on the floors for damage.

I just got home from a 4,500 mile jaunt with my 1991 Scamp with minimal issues. Biggest problem was a stretch in California that bumped my freshwater tank loose.

In your shoes, if you’re planning on an F-150, I’d plan to carry the 125 in the bed (angled, maybe w/o front tire?). OR get a Scamp 19 and carry the 125 off the rear!

 

[John2]

If it's hooked to the back, it will seriously affect the tongue weight. 300 pounds is 10% of a 3,000 pound trailer, and it's too far back, the leverage is magnified. Putting things wide on the A-frame will squeeze the back of the truck when turning or backing up.

Other issue with adding 300 lbs on the front of the trailer (bike plus carrier might be more) is the tongue weight.

You MIGHT be able to get away with it if you add rearward weight as well, but then you start the spiral of frame strength, axle rating, the rest of your running gear …

 

[George]

Best of solution is universal capsule in Dragon Ball, just don’t know where to buy it.

 

[Kev250R]

I'm in the same boat with my camping trailer. I love having the Trail with me on trips, but needed a good way to carry the bike and tow the trailer.

As @basecamp did I run a front rack off a receiver I added to the front of my truck. With my trailer attached to the rear receiver the weight sort of balances out. With only the bike and rack on the front hitch it does affect how my truck handles and I'm sure is causing un-due stress to the front end.

My Camper lives at a campground I like to frequent in the summer so most of the time I carry my Trail on the rack on my rear hitch (see my Avatar). The bed of my Tacoma is comically short and has a hard cover on it so carrying the bike in the bed isn't an option for me.

On longer trips (more then 100 miles) I take my Silverado. It seems to do better carrying the weight (obviously).

Ultimately I'd also like to add a rack to the rear of my camper so that I could carry and store my Trail on the camper. I'm actually working-on fabbing a rack system to do that now, but am worried that it will mess-up my tongue weight/balance of the camper.

Long story short: If you plan on buying an F150, plan-on carrying your Trail (and a ramp) in the bed.

 

[Markbxr400]

You should be able to close the tailgate with a CT in the back on an F150. Mayb e off a little at an angle in the bed. Else consider a longbed 150 or an F250. Here's my old F250 with a KTM 790, a Montesa 300RR and a Honda CRF230 in the bed with an XTrainer on the rear carrier.

 

[Markbxr400]

It's okay to put it on the front for short distances. After searching on the Internet, I found many people complaining that gravel and bugs are a big problem if the motorcycle is not covered. If the motorcycle is covered, engine heat is a problem.
There are also some front suspension steering issues. Issues with blocking the driver's view.
If the journey is more than 5,000 kilometers, I would not dare to try it.

Today I saw a post on FB. He removed the front wheel. I wonder if anyone have tried it? Maybe it is a solution? It is just a little troublesome.
Will the wheel fall off while riding?



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Could also just fully turn the steering to one side and lose close to a foot of length.

 

[TrailBoss]

Keep stealing ideas here and there
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Teardrops n Tiny Travel Trailers • View topic - Going To Build New 8.5 x 18ft V-nose - non-Toy Hauler

I'm kind of impressed with this idea. Not for $4,000 though.