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POLL - Is your front tire farther to the driver's right side?

Is your front wheel/tire off-center?

  • Yes, to the rider's right side

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • No its totally centered

    Votes: 6 60.0%
  • Yes, its off-center to the rider's left side

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    10

Allhatnocattle

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I recently installed my shinko 244s and it rubbed the fender on the right side, which I haven't seen on anyone else's comments. So my bike mechanic and I are wondering if this tire is always offcenter in the front or if my bike is out of wack...
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AZ7000'

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Not sure if you can see it in the pic but the drivers right tire nubbin touches, the drivers left looks to be 2 nubbins away. Never saw that before.

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Allhatnocattle

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After a painful amount of research, I am thinking my spokes need to be re-adjusted. Seems like the wheel has too much tension on the right side from the factory causing the tire to justify to the right. I am by no means an expert, but after a process of elimination I think this may be it. When I spin the wheel it seems true, but definitely closer to that side which was pronounced more after installing the 3" tires. If this is the case, I am going to have my mechanic fix it. I unfortunately bought the bike from a dealer 3 hrs away, so taking it back to them for adjusting isn't feasible. And for some reason I doubt the dealer in Austin would do any kind of fix for free especially since I have aftermarket tires. But the bike only has 250 miles on it...

Any experts here think this makes sense?
 

Dover_MA

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I measured the distance from the fender support to the edge of the rim, and mine is off-center to the right by .045".


Update (Edit): I redid my fender stay to rim gap measurements, and rotated the front wheel to check 4 places:
Left Right
1.215 1.160
1.210
1.220
1.213
The Mitutoyo digital vernier is accurate to .001, but variations in exactly where I'm applying it seem to give a repeatability of about .010. Left Gap of 1.215" minus Right Gap of 1.160" = .055" difference in gap, so the wheel appears to be offset to the right by .055/2 = .027". I was pleased how 'true' the rim is left to right. My ct125 has about 800 miles on it.
 
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SneakyDingo

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@Allhatnocattle - the generic term for that is dishing. For bicycles, there's a tool for it, but it's pretty easy to make on your own. I expect this would work on most motorcycles as well.


You could see if your rim was centered using this approach. IMO if you're just doing some quick checks, you don't even need to make it that fancy, you can just cut it out of several layers of cardboard (for stiffness) and then measure it that way.
 

Allhatnocattle

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Zero miles on mine and it is off to rider’s right side and the same with my 2020 Super Cub. Hmmm.

I think it’s just the way these bikes/wheels are designed. They’re obviously not symmetrical bc of the brakes. It’s easier to see if you have the fender off but I’d bet that everyone here has the same.
 

SneakyDingo

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I did the dishing check as if you were building a bicycle wheel and centering as if to use rim brakes. To do it, you'd need to either use different sized spokes, or adequately apply spacers to shift the wheel across as needed. I can't speak for the spacers, but the spokes themselves are equal lengths on both the left and right sides, which is typically how you would achieve it relative to the hub flanges (the part the spokes feed through). In the case of the CT125, it's 156.5mm spokes on the outside, 156mm spokes on the inside, equal on both sides. So it's not dished differently relative to the hub. This builds the strongest wheel, potentially at the expense of centering.

I then measured it for distance of rim relative to fender mount itself, assuming the fender is symmetrical.
  • Clearance from the rim to left side fender mount was 28mm
  • Clearance from rim to right fender mount was 25 mm
  • Orientation is right side = brake lever side.
When photographed from approximately the same positions (as close to the boot as possible), there appears to be slightly less clearance on the right side, but it's very small. I positioned my finger below the tire lip to provide contrast against the rubber.

So the wheel appears to be 3mm shifted to the right (non-brake rotor side). Given the design of the wheel, using a slightly shorter set of spokes on the left side would be the only reasonable way to achieve the desired result, but would result in a slightly weaker wheel.

Stock tires. The difference is quite small.

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