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Transmission Scream/Screech/Howl at speed?

zigzagjoe

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Yeah, my money is on a bearing also. I am wondering if there's overheating in the mix also... On Saturday I measured 252 degrees in the sump through the dipstick hole, which is excessive AFAIK. On a ride the prior weekend I was noticing power loss and a bit of clatter from the top end after extended riding - both concerning.

So thankfully I was able to capture the sound on my ride on Saturday and that was convincing enough that my service advisor was willing to entertain the idea that it's not normal nor is it rider error. My service advisor was still not able notice the sound, but at least they're going to start digging into it. While consulting with a more experienced service advisor, I got a bit of credit for having rolled in on a 40 year old super cub/passport. It was nice to not be dismissed out of hand as not knowing what I'm talking about.

We'll see where things go from here. I'm going to try to be cautiously optimistic. I'm barely irritated so far, but If they continue trying to blow smoke up my ass and especially if they make me ride it til it blows up... they will find out what being professionally intractable looks like. 😐

Now where things get interesting: I found a trick that might be useful for anyone else with a similar issue and needing to present evidence. If you put audio recordings in software that can generate a spectrograph (I've been using Audacity), you may be able to visually identify occurrences. For me the "precursor sound" has a frequency centered at 6800 hz and shows up as a line. Using this I was easily able to pick out every occurrence from Saturday's recordings as well as the ones previously.

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zigzagjoe

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Update on this is they didn't find anything abnormal about the clutch. Verdict is unless it fails they essentially can't do anything. This does not surprise me but it is disappointing.

Bearing or other transmission component is still my personal best guess. Seems like I'm going to have to ride the piss out of it until something obviously fails if I want to get it fixed.
 

zigzagjoe

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Yup, seems that will be the case. If/when the engine catastrophically fails the dealer will get to see what me being actually irritated looks like. Part of purchasing a new bike was to get a reliable starting point for some mild offroad adventures, and once I knew it had an issue I took to the dealer to head off a failure.

It really pains me to run something to destruction knowing it could have been prevented, and unless they want to send me a new engine to install I'm also going to have to get it hauled to the shop and wait months for it to get repaired. Not going to be shy of contacting honda corporate if that is what it takes.
 

m in sc

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just expediting the eventual. sounds like the dealership service dept sucks. no surprise there.
 
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