What type of chain does the Honda Trail 125 use?

[STUBBORN]

I did not know about motorcycle chains that have o-rings.

 

[Harv]

 

[SneakyDingo]

There are also X-ring chains. The stock chain is a non-sealed chain, just like most bicycle chains. There's reasons to run either option, but the stock chain is considered reasonably soft.

 

[Kev250R]

I've been wondering the same thing. So does the Trail use an O-Ring type or not?

My Grom did not have an O-Ring chain and after 3K miles with regular servicing and adjustments it was at the end of it's life. I was amazed at how much it had stretched during that time!

My KTM's both have O-Ring chains and my TW200 uses an X-Ring. None of those require much more then occasional oiling.

 

[Harv]

I've been wondering the same thing. So does the Trail use an O-Ring type or not?

Not

 

[STUBBORN]

Harv Posted a YouTube above.
Stock chain User Manual Page 101 = D.I.D 428 HD chain 108 links no O rings.
Recommended replacing stock chain with D.I.D. 428 VX. I went to the
local motorcycle shop and bought the VX chain 120 links $69.00
plus a $20.00 chain breaker.

 

[SneakyDingo]

Coincidentally that video from @Migolito was the reason why I bought that chain. I figured he'd post back here if he ever had regrets.

 

[JTB]

I've heard it said that sealed chains(O,X,Z types) have more resistance in their movement than regular chains and that for small engines it can noticeably sap the power. I have been hesitant to install a sealed chain for this reason.

 

[Harv]

Migolito - Any noticeable power loss due to the x-ring chain?

 

[STUBBORN]

Harv Posted a YouTube above.
Stock chain User Manual Page 101 = D.I.D 428 HD chain 108 links no O rings.
Recommended replacing stock chain with D.I.D. 428 VX. I went to the
local motorcycle shop and bought the VX chain 120 links $69.00
plus a $20.00 chain breaker.

I found a replacement (no o ring) and (o ring) chains from RK Takashago Chain

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They are half price of Honda or D.I.D. chains. Anyone have any
experience with these?

 

[dmonkey]

The power loss from o-rings and x-rings on the chain of a 100hp+ race bike is barely measurable, so it's not going to be something you notice on the Honda Trail if both chains are well maintained, BUT the sealed chains require lesser maintenance so by being a sealed chain in real life conditions they're likely to rob less HP in the many situations where riders neglect to maintain the chain and an unsealed one is more prone to drying, stretching, and kinking which robs power. RK chains are good quality and good value. RK and D.I.D. chains have similar defect warranty depending on the tier of chain and street or off-road use. Many people purchase D.I.D. chains for flashy aesthetic options like running a gold chain. Keep in mind that it is recommended to replace both sprockets when replacing a chain, so those are consumables that you want to try to match the longevity of if you're going for cost effectiveness.

 

[dmonkey]

This video is very informative on the topic:

 

[SneakyDingo]

Keep in mind that it is recommended to replace both sprockets when replacing a chain, so those are consumables that you want to try to match the longevity of if you're going for cost effectiveness.

One of the best reasons to immediately drop the chain from the stock bike and throw on the sealed chains. You won't have to replace the cogs. They're not expensive, but they're also more difficult to acquire lately than expected.

 

[AZ7000']

I use primary drive parts most of the dirt bikes, gold x-ring are really affordable. No sealed chains offered for the ct yet…

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[m in sc]

rk is a good chain.

 

[STUBBORN]

One of the best reasons to immediately drop the chain from the stock bike and throw on the sealed chains. You won't have to replace the cogs. They're not expensive, but they're also more difficult to acquire lately than expected.

I ordered a gold D.I.D. X-ring chain from Nault's. They ordered a 118 link chain. I asked them to change it to 108 links.

 

[SneakyDingo]

I ordered a gold D.I.D. X-ring chain from Nault's. They ordered a 118 link chain. I asked them to change it to 108 links.

You can cut it yourself too. The tool isn't super hard to use and costs about $13.

 

[STUBBORN]

I bought a Chain Breaker tool.
Made by Drag Specialties.
Not familiar how to use it, I asked the
shop at Naults to cut the chain down to 108 links.
Their chain breaker (see above) immediately broke.
They ordered another chain breaker.

 

[m in sc]

As far as cutting the chain, use a dremel or cutoff wheel, grind one of the pins down, cut the plate in half and pop the plate off. super easy. those chain breakers load the shit out of the rollers. spray it clean, lube, done.

 

[dmonkey]

I have always used this style of chain breaker, without issue. There are cheaper models, just be prepared to return them if they have poor machining or casting and don't work.

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