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FizzBuzz3000

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Hello all, I'm Fizz and I just bought my 2023 Honda Trail! Unfortunately, I haven't ridden it other than a demo at the dealership, and will be picking it up this weekend. I'm trying to get back in the swing of things with motorcycle riding and have been absolutely enamored by the 125. It reminds me of the dream bike I've always wanted, a 1982-83 Honda Motra Import! Having ridden manuals all my life with regular clutch systems, I'd like to know some things to be aware about if possible! I'd also like to hear what y'all do with your Trails, and share any stories if you do. Thank you! 😁
 

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Welcome!
It's great that you were able to demo ride the bike, that seems like a rare opportunity for the Honda Trail. If you're fresh off another bike then you might find yourself reaching for the phantom clutch lever. If you haven't been riding another motorcycle, you'll just need some time and practice to get acquainted with the semi-auto shifter. First and second gear especially can be jerky until you get the hang of things and apply some thought to the process of shifting, which will eventually enter into muscle memory and be subconscious.


On your new motorcycle you may want to check the oil level, chain tension, and throttle free-play. These are some common items overlooked by some dealerships during setup.

You can find some Honda Trail adventures in the Ride Reports section of this forum. These bikes see use for all types of things, ranching, grocery runs, work commute, trail riding, motorcycle camping, pit bike, run-around vehicle carried on an RV, and cross country trips.
 

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Hello all, I'm Fizz and I just bought my 2023 Honda Trail! Unfortunately, I haven't ridden it other than a demo at the dealership, and will be picking it up this weekend. I'm trying to get back in the swing of things with motorcycle riding and have been absolutely enamored by the 125. It reminds me of the dream bike I've always wanted, a 1982-83 Honda Motra Import! Having ridden manuals all my life with regular clutch systems, I'd like to know some things to be aware about if possible! I'd also like to hear what y'all do with your Trails, and share any stories if you do. Thank you! 😁

FizzBuzz, like the interview question?

I don't know if I've ever heard of someone getting a demo ride. This is a first for me.

Some things to be aware of - idk if it's something to be aware of specifically, but the automatic clutch tolerance gap goes out fairly quickly at first. It's a very easy task to bring back into spec, takes about 30s, a 14mm wrench and a flathead screwdriver. Despite it being called a heel shifter, it's easier to tap it with your toe. You'll know it's starting to go out of tolerance when you start to have trouble shifting (missed shifts, stiff shifts). I carry a 14mm in my pocket most of the time because it really is that easy and there's a flathead screwdriver in the toolbox under the rack.

Most people like to install the MP-01 Gold Plug on their bikes on the first oil change (or lean the bike all the way over and swap out the plug BEFORE the first change), although I don't remember offhand if it's short enough for the newer JA65 engine bikes. Like dmonkey says my throttle free play was "in tolerance" but there's a big difference between each end of the tolerance specification range.

The OEM tires are great for road, trash for off road. The headlight for night riding is like some people, pretty dim but meets the legal requirement.

What I do with my trail - well, apart from test the limits of what I can get away with since no one seems to take me seriously, mine's mostly for commuting and running errands. I treat it like a big bicycle, sans riding it on bike specific trails. I also think this is a superb "first bike" if you're trying to learn to wrench.
 
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FizzBuzz3000

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Thanks dmonkey for pointing me over to that forum post in regards to shifting, it's already helped greatly!

FizzBuzz, like the interview question?
Yup, Yup! I've always had a knack for computers and like using Linux. I've gone by this username for a good while now.

I don't know if I've ever heard of someone getting a demo ride. This is a first for me.
I know the guys at the dealership (I've been there with my old man a few times before and got to know them) they pretty much tossed the keys at me since they knew when I said "I'll buy if I can ride it".

Some things to be aware of - idk if it's something to be aware of specifically, but the automatic clutch tolerance gap goes out fairly quickly at first. It's a very easy task to bring back into spec, takes about 30s, a 14mm wrench and a flathead screwdriver. Despite it being called a heel shifter, it's easier to tap it with your toe. You'll know it's starting to go out of tolerance when you start to have trouble shifting (missed shifts, stiff shifts). I carry a 14mm in my pocket most of the time because it really is that easy and there's a flathead screwdriver in the toolbox under the rack.
This is good to know, thank you! I've found it more comfortable for me to use my heel to shift. Might change with time.

Most people like to install the MP-01 Gold Plug on their bikes on the first oil change (or lean the bike all the way over and swap out the plug BEFORE the first change), although I don't remember offhand if it's short enough for the newer JA65 engine bikes. Like dmonkey says my throttle free play was "in tolerance" but there's a big difference between each end of the tolerance specification range.
I was debating about doing this, but probably after I get the 300 (or 600 by the manual) mile break-in run-- Not sure yet. Moreso since the 2023 model's engine is different as you stated.

The OEM tires are great for road, trash for off road. The headlight for night riding is like some people, pretty dim but meets the legal requirement.
I live on a gravel road, which often doesn't get graded until near the end of the year or if it rains pretty heavily. The tire actually does seem to do quite fine, which surprised me! It might be due to the lightness of the bike, it allows one to float over the gravel better. I was going 30-40mph consistently!

As for the light, yeah I don't think I'll do any night riding... Unless I absolutely have to. That's more-or-less my baseline for riding as as a whole since deer are allover here and I'd rather just... Not.

What I do with my trail - well, apart from test the limits of what I can get away with since no one seems to take me seriously, mine's mostly for commuting and running errands. I treat it like a big bicycle, sans riding it on bike specific trails. I also think this is a superb "first bike" if you're trying to learn to wrench.
The bike for me will be my alternative mode of transportation during the spring/summer/fall over my car where possible as it's far easier to maintain this little bike over a 1.8L toyota engine! I will also be using it to ride and potentially go "moto-camping" next year, as I want to go places and meet new people along the way. And perhaps convince people that you don't need a whole lot of power to have fun riding a motorcycle. ;)
 

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I was debating about doing this, but probably after I get the 300 (or 600 by the manual) mile break-in run-- Not sure yet. Moreso since the 2023 model's engine is different as you stated.
Yeah, there's no hurry to do the swap. I did it with my first oil changed based on, "it's getting harder to shift" - lots of bikes shift better with clean oil. I do my oil changes at ~50% of the recommended interval, it's just so easy and not very much oil so it doesn't really hurt to do it more frequently. Makes for a better riding experience :).

The bike for me will be my alternative mode of transportation during the spring/summer/fall over my car where possible as it's far easier to maintain this little bike over a 1.8L toyota engine! I will also be using it to ride and potentially go "moto-camping" next year, as I want to go places and meet new people along the way. And perhaps convince people that you don't need a whole lot of power to have fun riding a motorcycle. ;)
Preachin' to the crowd here. I have a 42L duffel that worked out great. Getting a center rack between the legs is also a good investment, both to protect the plastic but also as a place to just get a tiny bit more luggage space.
 
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