Misterprofessionality
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This both welcome and puzzling news. Seemingly just a Monkey with the autoclutch. I wonder what the advantages are?
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The 125cc platform and its corresponding components are already proven so hashing out a new bike with it is very low cost compared to doing R&D and then producing a new platform. The 125 makes sufficient power and speed for most common uses of a mini moto. And the big one: insurance and registration, most countries have engine displacement tiers for insurance and registration where bikes under 50cc or 125cc see the most economical benefits and younger riders (16yrs+) are able to more easily obtain a license or permit for starting on a smaller class of motorcycle.
Ummmm, no. I have friends that spent $1000’s trying to get the suspension to work any better then a pogo stick. They do look cool though. Buy the x versions imho. Anyone but red has sweet real 250 fi models. And you can plate anything in AZ…. Wife’s te250 2T has a plate and we ride to the trail heads in town.May I introduce you to the CRF300L and CRF300L Rally?
There's still plenty of R&D being done on gas engines, just in parallel with the electric and alt fuels. Companies are also getting their EV tech through partnerships, mergers, acquisitions, and hand-me-downs from the bigger budget R&D of their parent companies or divisions that make 4-wheeled autos. The Grom just had minor engine updates, Ducati's V4 Granturismo engine is recent and can be called a "new" engine depending on your definition of new, BMW have their R1300GS that will likely be released soon, and Honda *might* be working on a new V4. Our CT125's engine is just an evolved version of something that's been around since at least the late 1950s, so it's hard for one engine to ever really be something "new" and not just a redesign or evolution of something that has already been made.The other factor to consider is that almost nobody is doing r&d for any new gas motors of any kind. Were entering an age now where manufacturers are just going to continue to put existing (sometimes really old, like the ninja 650 twin) motors into all new bikes with minor tweaks at best. All r&d is moving toward electrics and alternative fuels (if you're ducati). If you see a genuinely new gas motor for a street bike over the next 10 years it'll be surprising honestly. So, I said all that to say don't hold your breath for anything that doesn't already exist motorwise.
Depends on what type of riding you're doing with it. IMO the CRF300L suspension is still much better than the TW200 and CT125, all are severely under sprung. They're adequate for fire roads, slower single track use, etc. The CRF300L, especially the Rally with better wind protection, more seat cushion, and bar end weights, shines in that it suitable for that type of riding in addition to cruising all day with reasonable comfort pegged at its max speed of 80mph on the highway. It is bad that they went with Showa suspension and still didn't end up with something better than what it's got for offroad use though. For something more trail and single track focused it's not the best pick, especially without aftermarket suspension upgrades, but if you're looking for bigger and faster that is between the CT125 and an adventure bike, it certainly fits the bill. Few non-premium bikes come with decent suspension so it's certainly something to budget for. Having ridden a 2017(?) TE250, my experience was that even it could use a revalve. Obviously that differs by the person and type of riding though.Ummmm, no. I have friends that spent $1000’s trying to get the suspension to work any better then a pogo stick. They do look cool though. Buy the x versions imho. Anyone but red has sweet real 250 fi models. And you can plate anything in AZ…. Wife’s te250 2T has a plate and we ride to the trail heads in town.