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My Opinion on the 2023 stock sprocket setup... Or maybe why I was too hasty on buying the 13T sprocket.

FizzBuzz3000

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DISCLAIMER: This is in no way a definite say-all. There are probably many factors that probably affected my experience.


Hey all, I thought I'd share my experience with the using a 14T-38T and 13T-38T setups, and why I may have been a bit too rash in changing it over to the 13T-38T setup. So, let's get started.

When I first bought my 2023 trail #2332, I was somewhat disappointed in the performance of the the 125cc engine shortly after it's manual-specified break-in period of 600 miles, when I made a thread on here a couple of months ago and decided to throw the 13T sprocket on. And it did make a significant difference, and I rode it out to just shy of the 1000 mile-mark, so I decided to put the 14T back on and see if there was a difference now at 1100.

And there was, it was pretty huge. The 14T sprocket could now hold its own again virtually anything that made me swap to the 13T with relative ease, probably thanks to the longer stroke with the GROM head the 2023 model has. It took practically anything I threw it at: tar, gravel, hill climbing, and trail riding was just as close if not as good as if I were using the 13T. It's actually kinda shocking. The engine feels much more torque-y than at the 700 mile mark, and the auto clutch feels like it can take much more abuse now after the second clutch adjustment. I think that I think there's still needs to be much more break-in for the cycle, since 2nd gear is DEFINITELY a tall 2nd meant for street riding (3rd and 4th are closer to each-other so it's not as bad) which may bet better down the line. And I expect it to be damn near fully broken-in once I get another 1000-1500 or so miles packed into it. After this, I think I'm just going to keep the 13T sprocket on-hand for quick change-outs if I'm going to do serious (read, extreme for the Trail) trail riding with it. Otherwise I'm keeping the 14T on and keep on buying a 14T from now on. We live and learn.

If anyone else has had a similar experience, do share below. It may help other weary Trail riders in the future. Thanks!
 

Farmer Mike

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North Florida
DISCLAIMER: This is in no way a definite say-all. There are probably many factors that probably affected my experience.


Hey all, I thought I'd share my experience with the using a 14T-38T and 13T-38T setups, and why I may have been a bit too rash in changing it over to the 13T-38T setup. So, let's get started.

When I first bought my 2023 trail #2332, I was somewhat disappointed in the performance of the the 125cc engine shortly after it's manual-specified break-in period of 600 miles, when I made a thread on here a couple of months ago and decided to throw the 13T sprocket on. And it did make a significant difference, and I rode it out to just shy of the 1000 mile-mark, so I decided to put the 14T back on and see if there was a difference now at 1100.

And there was, it was pretty huge. The 14T sprocket could now hold its own again virtually anything that made me swap to the 13T with relative ease, probably thanks to the longer stroke with the GROM head the 2023 model has. It took practically anything I threw it at: tar, gravel, hill climbing, and trail riding was just as close if not as good as if I were using the 13T. It's actually kinda shocking. The engine feels much more torque-y than at the 700 mile mark, and the auto clutch feels like it can take much more abuse now after the second clutch adjustment. I think that I think there's still needs to be much more break-in for the cycle, since 2nd gear is DEFINITELY a tall 2nd meant for street riding (3rd and 4th are closer to each-other so it's not as bad) which may bet better down the line. And I expect it to be damn near fully broken-in once I get another 1000-1500 or so miles packed into it. After this, I think I'm just going to keep the 13T sprocket on-hand for quick change-outs if I'm going to do serious (read, extreme for the Trail) trail riding with it. Otherwise I'm keeping the 14T on and keep on buying a 14T from now on. We live and learn.

If anyone else has had a similar experience, do share below. It may help other weary Trail riders in the future. Thanks!
I have reverted to the 14 as well for most of my rides. I’m currently looking at what mods I might make to make swaps truly easy/fast. To date most of my rides have been on improved roads, and pavement on flat terrain, but I’m heading to the mountains soon and I’m thinking that 13 is gonna be necessary but I would like to swap back and fourth and compare each on some of the same roads. My mods goal is to be able to remove that front sprocket cover without taking of anything else…

For reference I rarely run WOT, I’m just not in a hurry and there seems to be a sweet spot between 38-42 for me and my config.
 

Austin125

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Round Rock, TX
I have reverted to the 14 as well for most of my rides. I’m currently looking at what mods I might make to make swaps truly easy/fast. To date most of my rides have been on improved roads, and pavement on flat terrain, but I’m heading to the mountains soon and I’m thinking that 13 is gonna be necessary but I would like to swap back and fourth and compare each on some of the same roads. My mods goal is to be able to remove that front sprocket cover without taking of anything else…

For reference I rarely run WOT, I’m just not in a hurry and there seems to be a sweet spot between 38-42 for me and my config.
I too have decided to re-try the 14 tooth front. It is quite the balance… The 14 is a bit slower at the start, and the 13 is “peppier” off the line. But I also find that with the 13, I’m shifting while only 3/4 way thru the intersection, and shifts from 1st to 2nd seem to be a bit “harsher” or maybe “picky” on timing.
Im still on the fence… With the lack of a top-speed improvement, it’s all about feel. And the 13 seems to show my lack of skill rather than improve my ride. With the 14, I’m still working with hills/wind in top gear, as I’m not out to inconvenience others on the road. But I do watch my mirrors and make way if I find I’m holding folks up in a confined (non-passing) section.
Hell, I’m retired… It don’t bother me if somebody is rushing to work, (or a heart condition) or some such.
 
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