testing the efie with an actual wideband

[selly]

Hi All, Question for everyone who has installed the efie device, How much of the body panels/plastics were necessary to remove for the installation? Does the ecm actually have to be fully exposed in order to tap into the wires? I've recently just got my efie device in the mail and want to get an idea of what I'm getting myself into! lol Other mods going on the bike include... Yoshi straight cyclone pipe, pcx150 injector and a s1cam(DHM). No plans for a bbk just yet... possibly in the future. Maybe adding a less restrictive intake in the future as well? Any thoughts or input appriciated! Thanks all! This has been a great forum with tons of info for these awesome machines! BTW... mine=2023 greenie

Check out the YouTube videos made by Saab (one of the forums members here) he is Quantiqualification on the Tube and has made some very helpful videos for your planned mods.

 

[DaleT]

Check out the YouTube videos made by Saab (one of the forums members here) he is Quantiqualification on the Tube and has made some very helpful videos for your planned mods.

Thanks Selly! Yes! Great videos for sure! Actually was partially inspired by his videos to begin with! (not sure if I should thank him or not) lol What I'm looking for is weather or not stripping the plastics off completely is needed to wire up the efie device? I know he does in one of his videos, just don't want to remove anything that's not necessary for the install. Thanks again for the input Selly AND everyone else on here making this board/forum what it is!

 

[m in sc]

its not. you only need to remove the top cover to access everything you need to get to.

fwiw, the connectors I use are from 'vintage connections' (primarily for other projects) so they wont look exactly like *modern* stock ones. also, its totally reversible (wiring wise) if need be. .02.

 

[DaleT]

Awesome! Thank you "m in sc"! I will give it a go hopefully in the next few days. Fingers crossed I will report back with good results! I do have one other question for you, When setting the mv output on the efie device, can this be done stand alone with just the efie device powered up to a 12v source? As in power it up off a 12v source (battery) prior to wiring up to the ecm? I want to avoid possibly setting off any error codes by trying to adjust on the fly with it installed. Not sure if that makes any sense or not? I guess the question might be is this, Is the mv signal from the device constant? or will it vary and can only be adjusted when actually wired up to the ecm? Thanks again! I truly do appreciate your responses and knowledge shared on this forum!

 

[m in sc]

ive adjusted it with the bike running, it won't throw a code. but you can preset it, but what matters is what it does when its wired in. also keep in mind, the ecm will still have to learn, give it 50 ish miles with a few blasts to wot during those runs.

 

[selly]

yes that's exactly how i did it, just to make sure i had it in correctly. they are never 100% dead nuts spot on but usually super super close.

Hey there I've been out to get the adjustable sprocket dialled in at zero advance/retard to then go on and rotate the central part as you advised by 2 degrees advanced. Here's what I'm fighting, just can't get the zero mark lined up at on the engine case when I'm at TDC. I've not primed the tensioner in these photos because I'm still taking the sprocket on and off figuring things out but that wouldn't alter the position anyway. Check the pics and can you let me know your thoughts?

 

[m in sc]

on the 2nd pic, if you push up on the tensioner it should line up. the tensioner pushes 'down' on the chain from the upper loop and should pull that 'back' into line. take the bolt out under the tensioner and physically push it up gently. that should tell you if it will line up. (ive never seen one that didnt) then prime it, and turn the motor over a few times.

 

[m in sc]

this is an aftermarket tensioner in mine, but the stock one works the same way. (pic was taken w head off)

 

[selly]

on the 2nd pic, if you push up on the tensioner it should line up. the tensioner pushes 'down' on the chain from the upper loop and should pull that 'back' into line. take the bolt out under the tensioner and physically push it up gently. that should tell you if it will line up. (ive never seen one that didnt) then prime it, and turn the motor over a few times.

Thanks, I'll give that a try and report back.

 

[DaleT]

Hey Folks! As promised, I'm reporting back with an update! What can I say? Everything from the install, performance, the gratification/satisfaction of the efie mod as well as the yoshi pipe, dhm s1cam and pcx150 injector ALL went very smooth! I took my time and did not rush the job, got stuck with a few minor things but nothing that a little Youtube investigation could not solve . I was able to get the bike out today to get the requsite 40-50ish miles needed to allow the ecm to learn and adjust to the new mods ect. I set the mv output on the efie to 250mv and so far the bike seems to like it (at least thats what my butt dyno is telling me). I'm a lighter rider, about 145lb without gear. I had little problem with the bike hitting 60mph (pre mods) on the flat straight aways so my expectations were not through the roof as far as obtaining anything that much higher top speedwise. First off, the bike fired up first try without a hitch, just like stock (no mods). I think I was half expecting to have to hit the start button a few times to get it to start considering the new cam and new fuel injector had just been installed, so that was a nice surprise. Observations over the miles put on since the new mods are that mid rpm range is where the bike likes to be and where the pull is most notable. This is not earth shattering news as others have reported the same with similar/like mods (cam, exhaust, injector ect.). Again, this was just my observation of how the bike performed after the modifications were installed. Bike cruises nicely and without struggle around 55ish, has better pull on notable inclines even from a dead stop although momentum is still your friend on these bikes when going up long grades! Top speed did improve by a few mph... mayybe by 3-4 (so 63-65ish on straight flats wot). Downhill??? speedo hit close to 70 on a few downhill spots which on this bike can get a little sketchy for me... on a bigger heavier bike, no issues/problem lol. Anyway, overall very happy with the way the bike is running right now and honestly, at the miles since the new mods, the ecm is probably still making slight adjustments so as smooth as the bike is running currently, It may improve even more!

side notes: valves were set to .005 intake and .005 exhaust with the new cam (per instuctions from DHM). also switched to a ngk-cr9e plug and did a fresh oil change to go along with the new goodies!

Thanks again everyone for all your insights and input!
-Dale

 

[selly]

on the 2nd pic, if you push up on the tensioner it should line up. the tensioner pushes 'down' on the chain from the upper loop and should pull that 'back' into line. take the bolt out under the tensioner and physically push it up gently. that should tell you if it will line up. (ive never seen one that didnt) then prime it, and turn the motor over a few times.

Hi so I primed the tensioner and no change on the sprocket marking positions for the Yuminashi adjustable one. I've got a choice of retarded by 6 degrees or similar advanced. Not sure why that is but I've put the stock sprocket on until I can figure a work around. Pic below with stock sprocket at TDC.

 

[m in sc]

beats me. must be an incorrectly drilled or marked sprocket from yuminashi, which sucks.

 

[selly]

beats me. must be an incorrectly drilled or marked sprocket from yuminashi, which sucks.

That's what I figured, I'll try to get a replacement but I'm not holding my breath they didn't seem to bothered about sending out the s238 cam with both bearings not pressed on properly.

 

[m in sc]

i mean.. as cheap as that stuff is its not terribly surprising. they have gotten a LOT better over the years.

 

[Floatinginnj]

I wonder if this will work on my bike - it has a built in meter and looks pretty cool

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