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Timmy6216

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Hi everybody I'm sure you guys have seen me poking around for the last couple of weeks and I am proud to say I now own a trail 125. I got it home today after joyriding around the neighborhood for 2 miles I got home, had dinner waited for it to get dark and then went down the street. I need to ask, how on Earth can you guys tolerate this headlight? I've seen lightning bugs that put out more lumens. So my question is does anybody have a link to a plug and play or similar upgrade for the headlight for this thing?
 

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There is a headlight mod here:
Other than that a few members have wired up auxiliary lights. I agree, the stock light is terrible for night riding other than maybe putzing around a yard. If you ride on a street at night oncoming traffic's lights drown yours out to the point that you can't see in front of you.
 

Timmy6216

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There is a headlight mod here:
Other than that a few members have wired up auxiliary lights. I agree, the stock light is terrible for night riding other than maybe putzing around a yard. If you ride on a street at night oncoming traffic's lights drown yours out to the point that you can't see in front of you.
I have a feeling that I'm going to become a wiring wizard and do what I always do and replace headlights with better lights. Or seeing how I already ordered my highway bars or bash bars or whatever we'd like to call them, I will Mount up lights on those and wire them up with just a standard switch.
 

AZ7000'

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It works fine for me, top speed is like 53mph? It’s 3 times as good as the ‘75 and that has a led conversion on all the other lights.
No fireflies here so I can’t compare it…
 

Timmy6216

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Hey guys thank you for all the replies I actually went with some small three by three grid LED pod lights that I found on a YouTube video on a guy putting on a motorcycle they come with a pretty decent mounting kit variety and it I also ordered an entire wiring harness from start to finish with relay. the entire thing was $50 give or take a few and my goal is to point this thing to any direction I want make daylight. I'm going to probably replace the switch that comes with the kit with something a little smaller but in the end I'll have good lights as I would need them.

And yes of course obviously once I have them mounted up I'll have to take pictures LOL
 

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i never found it to be bad, at all. I think some people need to get their vision checked TBH. also blocking some of the area the area with covers doesn't help. .02
 

Timmy6216

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i never found it to be bad, at all. I think some people need to get their vision checked TBH. also blocking some of the area the area with covers doesn't help. .02
Well that's cool for you man, I live in a rual area, so more light is better. And FYI, my eyes are just fine I assure you.
 

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I ride in rural areas as well, 5 minutes from my house and im in the country. more light is better... sure... but the stock headlight does really well overall compared to a lot of bikes. I also know a lot of riders over 45 that their night vision is fading and dont realize it. (and yes im over 50).
 

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For riding in traffic at night, or even with street lights, it's a matter of contrast that causes the issue. It's not only getting older, modern cars and street lights are in fact getting brighter and create more glare. If you're looking at the road in front of you illuminated by the Honda Trail's headlight then that's fine on a dark back road where it's the only light source, but as soon as you come up to a brighter light source like an oncoming car, you're temporarily blinded by that light as your pupils adjust to the difference of it from the light of the trail's headlight. You can try to manage this by averting your eyes to the painted line or shoulder on the right side of the road, but then you aren't looking where you're going. If you also have a brighter light, the difference is not so much and you'll still be able to see the detail of the road in front of you when being passed by a modern vehicle with obnoxiously bright LED, halogen, or HID lights.
 

DJ427

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Hi everybody I'm sure you guys have seen me poking around for the last couple of weeks and I am proud to say I now own a trail 125. I got it home today after joyriding around the neighborhood for 2 miles I got home, had dinner waited for it to get dark and then went down the street. I need to ask, how on Earth can you guys tolerate this headlight? I've seen lightning bugs that put out more lumens. So my question is does anybody have a link to a plug and play or similar upgrade for the headlight for this thing?
I haven't ridden at night so I don't know how well the headlight works. Are you saying even hi beam is weak?
 

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I haven't ridden at night so I don't know how well the headlight works. Are you saying even hi beam is weak?
My observation was that the high beam isn't much brighter than the low beam, it just has higher/further aim. The blue hi beam light on the instrument cluster is very bright though, bright enough that someone on YouTube covered it in electrical tape to block it out from being a distraction.
 

m in sc

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The blue hi beam light on the instrument cluster is very bright though, bright enough that someone on YouTube covered it in electrical tape to block it out from being a distraction.

my cb1100 is the same way . its ridiculous.
 

Timmy6216

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I haven't ridden at night so I don't know how well the headlight works. Are you saying even hi beam is weak?
hi there! yea I'm saying that the light sucks in its entirety. i aimed it down and hit the high beam and it seems to help, but still not digging it. just my .02 the blue light is obnoxious
 

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When I win the BIG lottery I'll pay to have all your* headlights shipped to me and I'll swap in some 4500k, high CRI emitters and then you'll see first-hand that there is a huge difference in LED emitters.
It's so much work though. If I had it to do over again I would've used Cree XP-L HI for both low and high beam to get more throw on low. The reflector provides plenty of spill in the area it illuminates, the XP-L HI would've thrown further. too late.
It would've cost them 5-10 bucks more per headlight for decent tint and color rendition (just a guess based on the cost of the emitters for a big order) but if it only needs to hit a certain lumens output with something resembling white light then it conforms.
Consider this also: 2 of the same emitters drawing the same current but one is 6500k and the other is 4000k, the 6500k will put out more measurable lumens. So if brighter is better, and higher Kelvins is cheaper, then we wind up with blue and purple tints.
Since headlights are no longer a big piece of glass with 2 terminals that we just swap out we're stuck with their system.

Maybe one of you gearheads will find a replacement headlight that accepts something similar to a 9005 type automotive bulb that we can swap out. I think the current draw on that size would be too high but maybe there's a motorsports or UTV type round headlight that can be used.
I was inspired to mod my headlight by a fellow flashoholic who modded his scooter headlight, he estimated 350mA for each emitter, 700mA @3.3V on low so that's NOT a lot of current. Light circuit very similar to ours, also made by Stanley, but that headlight assembly looks like a nightmare. We Trail 125 riders stand a chance of finding a decent replacement housing because ours is just round. I'll do some digging this weekend. May require an adapter that will mount within our housing and a wiring harness but we've all seen much more complicated solutions for automotive and motorcycle upgrades.

Beamshots done with a phone camera are fairly useless, but I'll head out to a dark area and lock the exposure to the hotspot of the low beam and take a pic, then turn on high and take another pic. Will upload if they're realistic.
(edit- useless effort, pictures convey nothing worth posting. But I DID get a little ride in and a saw an owl swoop down off a streetlight!)

To those who hate it: I feel your pain. To those who love it: that's awesome!




* = all who've posted before me. optimistic I'll hit the big one but don't want to spend my life modding headlights.
 
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