[USA] American Honda Confirms Honda Trail 125 return for 2023

[ol mike]

Anybody hearing anything new about anything HT125 2023?

 

[dmonkey]

Not too interesting unless you're into emissions, but the EPA did update their posted certification data which includes the 2023 Trail 125's certification with the Euro 5 compliant engine.

Here's a comparison to the 2021 CT125A:

Model Year	2021	2023
Category	Highway Motorcycle - Ib (50-169cc)	Highway Motorcycle - Ib (50-169cc)
Certificate No.	MHNXC0.12CTD-015	PHNXC0.12CTH-026
Engine Family	MHNXC0.12CTD	PHNXC0.12CTH
Permeation Family	MHNXPMETAL18	PHNXPMETAL18
Manufacturer Name	American Honda Motor Co., Inc.	American Honda Motor Co., Inc.
Engine OEM Manufacturer	Thai Honda Manufacturing Co., Ltd.	Thai Honda Co., Ltd.
Engine OEM Country	Thailand	Thailand
Vehicle OEM Manufacturer	Thai Honda Manufacturing Co., Ltd.	Thai Honda Co., Ltd.
Vehicle OEM Country	Thailand	Thailand
Small Volume Manufacturer Type	NA	NA
Application Type	NEW	NEW
Sales Area	50S	50S+49S
Combustion Cycle	4	4
No. of Cylinders	1	1
Valve per Cylinder	2	2
Fuel Type	GAS	GAS
Engine Displacment(s)	125	124
Fuel System Type	SFI	SFI
Air/Fuel Feedback Sensor?	Y	Y
No of Carburetors
Other Fuel System
Air Aspiration Type	NA	NA
Other Air Aspiration Type
Air Injection Type	NA	NA
Other Air Injection Type
Charge Air Cooler Y/N	N	N
Electronic Control	ECM	ECM
EGR - Y/N	N	N
Catalytic Converter - Y/N	Y	Y
Catalyst Type
Models Certified	TRAIL 125	TRAIL 125, Trail 125 ABS
Exhaust Test Procedure	FTP_C	FTP_C
Emission Measurement Unit	G/KM	G/KM
ABT Engine Family	N	N
Exhaust FEL - HC
Exhaust FEL - HC+NOx
Exhaust FEL - CO
EDV Type	NEW	NEW
EDV Model	CT125A	CT125A
EDV VIN	MLHJA555XM5000001	MLHJA6559P5000002
EDV Engine Code	MAE1	PAE1
EDV Engine Displacement - cc	125	124
EDV Rated Power	6.5	6.6
Power Units	kW	kW
EDV EIM	200	210
EDV Rated RPM	7000	6250
EDV Road Load Force (N)	115.	117.
EDV Transmission Type	M	M
EDV Transmission - No. Speeds	4	4
EDV N/V Ratio	79.1	82.1
DF Type	M	M
DF-HC	1.000	1.021
DF-NOX	1.478	1.252
DF-HC+NOX	9.999	9.999
DF-CO	1.000	1.268
Low Hour GHG CO2	33	35
Low Hour GHG CO2 Method	Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family	Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family
Low Hour GHG CH4	0.013	0.004
Low Hour GHG CH4 Method	Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family	Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family
Low Hour GHG N2O	0.002	0.01
Low Hour GHG N2O Method	Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family	Tested result from the EDV(s) of the Engine Family
Certification Level - CO	0.8	0.7
Certification Level - NOx
Certification Level - HC	0.1	0.1
Certification Level - HC+NOx
Permeation-Tank CBD Y/N
Permeation-Fuel Line CBD Y/N
Fuel Tank Material	M	M

 

[BaldRider]

I figure the Powerhouse dealer who has my deposit will let me know as soon as they know. I thought about stopping by all casual-like and asking but it is two hours away.

 

[ol mike]

I'm dealing with two Dealerships, neither salesman seem to care about the HT125. They both sound young and are more into the more exciting performance bikes.
Salesman at Jonesboro, Ar. Cycle & ATV talked to me once, he said they didn't know if there was going to be a 2023 in the Honda line-up. I sent him a link to the announcement that the HT125 was supposedly available soon. He gave my name to another salesman who sent me a text saying if one comes in we'll let you know. I asked if I could put a deposit down? No - can't do that.

 

[KYtrailfan]

I'm dealing with two Dealerships, neither salesman seem to care about the HT125. They both sound young and are more into the more exciting performance bikes.
Salesman at Jonesboro, Ar. Cycle & ATV talked to me once, he said they didn't know if there was going to be a 2023 in the Honda line-up. I sent him a link to the announcement that the HT125 was supposedly available soon. He gave my name to another salesman who sent me a text saying if one comes in we'll let you know. I asked if I could put a deposit down? No - can't do that.

I'd keep dialing. There are still a few real dealers left who value their customer's.

 

[BaldRider]

The first question the dealer I called asked was if I had seen the new color. He was pretty enthusiastic about it and said he hoped they would get a million of them.

 

[ol mike]

I'd keep dialing. There are still a few real dealers left who value their customer's.

One place is 55 miles away, the Jonesboro dealership is 120 miles away.
Beyond that it turns into a pretty good road trip.

 

[Backwoods]

I'm dealing with two Dealerships, neither salesman seem to care about the HT125. They both sound young and are more into the more exciting performance bikes.
Salesman at Jonesboro, Ar. Cycle & ATV talked to me once, he said they didn't know if there was going to be a 2023 in the Honda line-up. I sent him a link to the announcement that the HT125 was supposedly available soon. He gave my name to another salesman who sent me a text saying if one comes in we'll let you know. I asked if I could put a deposit down? No - can't do that.

I put a $200 deposit down this morning, bike should be in later this month. I have a 2022, so I’m not in a hurry, but it will get here.

 

[matthewcashews]

Yeah one dealership I called a few weeks ago after the 2023 got announced called me today and said they’re getting a few in the next couple of weeks. Gave him a deposit today of $200 and sounds like I could have it very soon! Much faster than I assumed

 

[brbo]

It's worth the wait.... I'm surprised Honda decided to send a few north before you guys getting any....

 

[vintagegarage]

Honda of Melbourne received three 2023 Trail 125's today. I didn't buy any of them.. I forgot to ask them, but it sounds like they come one to a box instead of two to a box like the Canadian ones, since they received an odd number.

 

[BaldRider]

I just got the call that mine has arrived. I will be picking it up Saturday.

 

[BaldRider]

Honda of Melbourne received three 2023 Trail 125's today. I didn't buy any of them.. I forgot to ask them, but it sounds like they come one to a box instead of two to a box like the Canadian ones, since they received an odd number.

I was just thinking about this. My dealer also received 3 which is now leading me to believe that they come three to a box. I'll ask tomorrow.

 

[DJ427]

Just stay in touch with the dealer, thats how I got mine a year ago

 

[BaldRider]

A couple things Iearned today.

1) They are being shipped one to a crate.
2) The OEM accessories are available to order now but only the front and center racks. The other stuff sold in Japan isn't available yet and may not be ever

 

[dmonkey]

Congrats on the USA 2023! Did you get a good VIN?

 

[vintagegarage]

BaldRider, I am envious. Thanks for the one to a crate confirmation. Based on the part numbers, I am assuming the USA rear rack doesn't' have the two rear side accessory mounting bungs on the underside of the left bar of the rear rack, just like they are missing on the Thai models. Please also confirm that, much appreciated. The Canadians, Japanese, and other countries have the bungs, but Thai and USA models do not, I think.

 

[BaldRider]

Congrats on the USA 2023! Did you get a good VIN?

Not sure what 'good' would be. Booger is #160

 

[BaldRider]

BaldRider, I am envious. Thanks for the one to a crate confirmation. Based on the part numbers, I am assuming the USA rear rack doesn't' have the two rear side accessory mounting bungs on the underside of the left bar of the rear rack, just like they are missing on the Thai models. Please also confirm that, much appreciated. The Canadians, Japanese, and other countries have the bungs, but Thai and USA models do not, I think.

That appears to be correct

 

[BaldRider]

Another thing...

The 2023 manual does not mention a colder spark plug alternative as far as I can see.